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indissociable du prix de la chambre

English translation: breakfast is included (value 10€, non deductible from room rate)

16:28 Feb 15, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Tourism & Travel
French term or phrase: indissociable du prix de la chambre
"Le petit déjeuner au prix de 10€ est inclus et indissociable du prix de la chambre."
Sentence in a "CONDITIONS GENERALES DE VENTE et REGLEMENT INTERIEUR" of a hotel.
Firstly, the whole concept sounds odd to my ears - is this in anyway a standard disclaimer??
According to the person for whom I'm doing the translation:
"Le client doit savoir ce que coûte en valeur le petit déj. et le distinguer du
prix de la chambre. Bien que inclus dans le prix de la chambre celui ci n'est pas gratuit."
But I'm not sure that this sentence indeed reflects this idea.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jonathan MacKerron
English translation:breakfast is included (value 10€, non deductible from room rate)
Explanation:
Or maybe "breakfast (value 10€) is included. There is no "room only" rate.
Selected response from:

Emma Paulay
France
Local time: 22:19
Grading comment
Many thanks
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +8breakfast is included (value 10€, non deductible from room rate)
Emma Paulay
3 +3is not deductible (from the price if the room)
Carol Gullidge
4 +1Breakfast (10 euros) is fixed into the price of the room
MatthewLaSon
4inseparable from the price of the room
John Fossey
4part of the room rate
rkillings
3but cannot be deducted from the price of the room
Claire Cox
3including a 10€ compulsory breakfast charge
ormiston


  

Answers


6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
inseparable from the price of the room


Explanation:
Perhaps it could be for sales tax reasons? If the breakfast is not taxable but the room charge is? In this case some jurisdictions would require that what is being tax/non-taxed is disclosed, but the hotel doesn't want people ordering one without the other.

John Fossey
Canada
Local time: 16:19
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
is not deductible (from the price if the room)


Explanation:
may not be deducted....
.
not really sure, as your client's explanation is rather muddled to my ears, but what I'm suggesting makes some sense. Ie, the hotel guest can't just pay the price of the room without paying for breakfast as well, even if he foregoes this. The total price for bed and breakfast applies, even if you don't take breakfast!

Carol Gullidge
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 62

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Claire Cox: Snap! I must have been typing my answer as you posted yours.
1 min
  -> thanks Claire- 'great minds' think alike :)
agree  Noni Gilbert Riley: Yes, this is it. A kind of cousin to "no cash equivalent" disclaimers for prizes on offer.
6 mins
  -> thanks Noni - I like your analogy :)
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
1 hr
  -> thanks gallagy!
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
but cannot be deducted from the price of the room


Explanation:
Perhaps? In case anyone tries to get a reduction claiming that they don't want breakfast?

Claire Cox
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:19
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 28
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +8
breakfast is included (value 10€, non deductible from room rate)


Explanation:
Or maybe "breakfast (value 10€) is included. There is no "room only" rate.

Emma Paulay
France
Local time: 22:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 41
Grading comment
Many thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Colin Morley (X): I'm with you on this Emma - reading the questioner's context this is a very concise explanation
7 mins
  -> Thank you Colin.
agree  philgoddard: Except it should be €10, not 10€, and non deductible should have a hyphen.
10 mins
  -> Yes, thank you Phil. Just for the record, I pay more attention to my work than to my Kudoz suggestions ;-)
agree  Michele Fauble
29 mins
  -> Thank you.
agree  Barbara Carrara: Agree with amount+currency sequence (10€ or 10EUR).
46 mins
  -> Yes, of course. I type quicker than I think sometimes.
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
1 hr
agree  Verginia Ophof
1 hr
agree  Sheila Wilson
2 hrs
agree  Lara Barnett
2 days 15 hrs
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
including a 10€ compulsory breakfast charge


Explanation:
i.e. 'un-opt-outable' but hard to put neatly !

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Note added at 22 mins (2011-02-15 16:50:59 GMT)
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i.e. you can opt out of actually eating their breakfast but you must still pay for it !

ormiston
Local time: 22:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 14

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: This could imply that you have to eat breakfast.
2 mins
neutral  Michele Fauble: Not inaccurate, but not a good way of putting it from a marketing standpoint.
25 mins
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Breakfast (10 euros) is fixed into the price of the room


Explanation:
Hello,

In other words, there is nothing you can do about it, whether you take your breakfast or not!

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I hope this helps.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 16:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jean-Claude Gouin
4 hrs
  -> Merci 1045! J'espère que tout va très bien pour toi.
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
part of the room rate


Explanation:
Keep it short.

If the client wants to be more emphatic to make the point that the breakfast is paid for whether the guest takes it or not, add something -- anything -- else. Don't try to do it with an adjective.

rkillings
United States
Local time: 13:19
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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