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"серые" и "черные" зарплаты

English translation: companies that pay all or part of salaries off the books

03:41 Jul 22, 2008
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)
Russian term or phrase: "серые" и "черные" зарплаты
Впрочем, по словам члена комитета Госдумы по финансовому рынку Павла Медведева, если банки последуют рекомендациям ЦБ, пострадают и крупные заемщики, например строительные компании, которые также практикуют выдачу "серых" и "черных" зарплат
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В принципе ясно о чем речь, но хотелось бы точно знать в чем разница между черными и серыми зарплатами.

Заранее благодарю за объяснение!
Aleksey Chervinskiy
United States
Local time: 06:36
English translation:companies that pay all or part of salaries off the books
Explanation:
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Clue
Russian Federation
Local time: 13:36
Grading comment
Thank you.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4companies that pay all or part of salaries off the books
Clue
4 +1partly/fully undeclared wages
Eric Candle
3 +1grey-market or completely under-the-table wages
Dorene Cornwell
3 +1so called "grey" and "black" salary
natalia gavrile


Discussion entries: 3





  

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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
grey-market or completely under-the-table wages


Language variant: US

Explanation:
Despite the great explanation above, it's not so straighforward to come up with something concise in English

Dorene Cornwell
Local time: 03:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Dorene, under-the-table is really right on.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jack Doughty: If grey-market is OK, why not black-market? (Incidentally, I thought "grey" was "gray" in US English).
2 mins
  -> Thank you. I agree, black-market would also work but then we would still have the question of what is meant by grey vs black. Grey / Gray: my dictionary has both.
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
companies that pay all or part of salaries off the books


Explanation:
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Clue
Russian Federation
Local time: 13:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 56
Grading comment
Thank you.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nurzhan KZ
29 mins
  -> Спасибо!
agree  Anzhelika Maximova-McCall
2 hrs
  -> Спасибо!
agree  danya: я бы убрал salary - просто pay off the books
4 hrs
  -> Спасибо!
agree  Mikhail Korolev
18 hrs
  -> Спасибо!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
so called "grey" and "black" salary


Explanation:
payment of wages by legal or illegal schemes to conceal payroll tax, so called "grey" and "black" salary
«Черная» зарплата - работодатель не платит с нее ЕСН (единый социальный налог), зарплата не подтверждена документально, не проходит по документам фирмы, не проходит по банковским счетам. "Серая" - работник числится в финансовых и налоговых документах фирмы, но часть заработной платы получает отдельно, это часть, не облагающаяся налогом, или выплаченная по схеме, не подлежащей налогобложению, например, выплата зарплаты через договор страхования - Фирма страхует своих работников на крупную сумму, выплаты по страховке равны зарплате и перечисляются на расчетный счет работника в банке.

natalia gavrile
Kazakhstan
Local time: 16:36
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Leniana Koroleva
4 hrs
  -> спасибо
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
partly/fully undeclared wages


Explanation:
отражает степень сокрытия от налоговой инспекции

Eric Candle
Local time: 06:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, this one works too, but Clue was first.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  koundelev: great
2 days 8 hrs
  -> Thank you, George
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