Holding Patrimoniale

English translation: (Pure) Holding Company

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French term or phrase:Holding Patrimoniale
English translation:(Pure) Holding Company
Entered by: Jack Dunwell

09:22 Jan 19, 2019
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Shareholders\' Agreement
French term or phrase: Holding Patrimoniale
What do you call a holding company that just holds shares and has no other activity.......?
This is not a family holding company
Jack Dunwell
France
Local time: 01:28
(Pure) Holding Company
Explanation:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/holding-company#ref106406

Holding company, a corporation that owns enough voting stock in one or more other companies to exercise control over them. A corporation that exists solely for this purpose is called a pure holding company , while one that also engages in a business of its own is called a holding-operating company..."

http://www.holdingcompany.com/definitions/holding-company.ht...

"...an American point of view expressed by Waltersdorf in the Economic Journal of December 1926, who wrote: “In a technical sense, the Holding Company is a corporation chartered under the laws of one of the States, with broad powers enabling it to acquire and hold securities, and to issue its own securities. As a rule, the primary object of the device is to acquire all or a controlling majority of the outstanding stock, a certain percentage of the bonds, and other general securities and to hold continuously as securities notes for advances made in cash to cover current operating and construction needs. The Holding Company uses these different types of securities as the asset basis for the issuance of its own securities.


...What distinguishes a “Pure Holding company” from a “Mixed Holding company” is not the legal aspect, which is generally identical within the same country, but the fiscal aspect that manifests itself in the different taxation of certain types of income, as well as in the applicable tax base...."



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https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Gov-Inc/Ho...
"...A holding company is said to be a "pure" holding company if it exists solely for the purpose of owning stock in other companies and does not engage in business operations separate from its subsidiaries. If the parent company also engages in its own business operations, then it is said to be a "mixed" holding company or a holding-operating company. Holding companies whose subsidiaries engage in unrelated lines of business are called conglomerates..."

and more definitions/types here
https://accountlearning.com/holding-company-meaning-definiti...


and this was an interesting case in regards to Italian tax law
https://www.pwc.lu/en/private-equity/newsletters/newsletter-...
"...From the Supreme Court’s perspective, the lower court misinterpreted the concept of beneficial ownership, not distinguishing the particular nature and activities performed by a pure holding company from those of the operating companies. More specifically, the Supreme Court agreed with the taxpayer’s argument that the degree of substance required of a pure holding company should naturally be lower than that of the operating companies, as it is not essential for a pure holding company to have an organisational structure as complex as that of an operating company in terms of premises, personnel, assets, etc.

Taking their particular characteristics into consideration, pure holding companies can be considered beneficial owners of the dividends to the extent that they have an adequate organisational structure based on their nature and functions
(i.e. a level of organisational structure able to carry out an activity of mere coordination and control over the subsidiary, attending shareholders’ meetings and collecting dividends with the capacity to retain them, as opposed to being obliged to repay them to another entity).

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Note added at 5 days (2019-01-24 15:07:58 GMT)
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Well yes, it's often waffle but it is sometimes necessary to differentiate. And here there could be a fiscal difference (re taxation/applicable tax base)

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Note added at 7 days (2019-01-26 14:08:39 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 00:28
Grading comment
Thank you Yvonne
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1(Pure) Holding Company
Yvonne Gallagher
4holding company
Francois Boye
4Holding Company
Lorraine Valarino
3Asset Management Company
Nesrine Echroudi


Discussion entries: 4





  

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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Asset Management Company


Explanation:
I am not pretty sure because I hadn't made much research. But I think if it is not a family or parent company then it should be an asset management company.
An asset management company (AMC) is a company that invests its clients' pooled funds into securities that match declared financial objectives. Asset management companies provide investors with more diversification and investing options than they would have by themselves. AMCs manage mutual funds, hedge funds and pension plans, and these companies earn income by charging service fees or commissions to their clients.

Example sentence(s):
  • https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/asset_management_company.asp
Nesrine Echroudi
Tunisia
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
holding company


Explanation:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/holdingcompany.asp

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 19:28
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 36
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(Pure) Holding Company


Explanation:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/holding-company#ref106406

Holding company, a corporation that owns enough voting stock in one or more other companies to exercise control over them. A corporation that exists solely for this purpose is called a pure holding company , while one that also engages in a business of its own is called a holding-operating company..."

http://www.holdingcompany.com/definitions/holding-company.ht...

"...an American point of view expressed by Waltersdorf in the Economic Journal of December 1926, who wrote: “In a technical sense, the Holding Company is a corporation chartered under the laws of one of the States, with broad powers enabling it to acquire and hold securities, and to issue its own securities. As a rule, the primary object of the device is to acquire all or a controlling majority of the outstanding stock, a certain percentage of the bonds, and other general securities and to hold continuously as securities notes for advances made in cash to cover current operating and construction needs. The Holding Company uses these different types of securities as the asset basis for the issuance of its own securities.


...What distinguishes a “Pure Holding company” from a “Mixed Holding company” is not the legal aspect, which is generally identical within the same country, but the fiscal aspect that manifests itself in the different taxation of certain types of income, as well as in the applicable tax base...."



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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs (2019-01-20 11:44:23 GMT)
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https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Gov-Inc/Ho...
"...A holding company is said to be a "pure" holding company if it exists solely for the purpose of owning stock in other companies and does not engage in business operations separate from its subsidiaries. If the parent company also engages in its own business operations, then it is said to be a "mixed" holding company or a holding-operating company. Holding companies whose subsidiaries engage in unrelated lines of business are called conglomerates..."

and more definitions/types here
https://accountlearning.com/holding-company-meaning-definiti...


and this was an interesting case in regards to Italian tax law
https://www.pwc.lu/en/private-equity/newsletters/newsletter-...
"...From the Supreme Court’s perspective, the lower court misinterpreted the concept of beneficial ownership, not distinguishing the particular nature and activities performed by a pure holding company from those of the operating companies. More specifically, the Supreme Court agreed with the taxpayer’s argument that the degree of substance required of a pure holding company should naturally be lower than that of the operating companies, as it is not essential for a pure holding company to have an organisational structure as complex as that of an operating company in terms of premises, personnel, assets, etc.

Taking their particular characteristics into consideration, pure holding companies can be considered beneficial owners of the dividends to the extent that they have an adequate organisational structure based on their nature and functions
(i.e. a level of organisational structure able to carry out an activity of mere coordination and control over the subsidiary, attending shareholders’ meetings and collecting dividends with the capacity to retain them, as opposed to being obliged to repay them to another entity).

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Note added at 5 days (2019-01-24 15:07:58 GMT)
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Well yes, it's often waffle but it is sometimes necessary to differentiate. And here there could be a fiscal difference (re taxation/applicable tax base)

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Note added at 7 days (2019-01-26 14:08:39 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 00:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 47
Grading comment
Thank you Yvonne
Notes to answerer
Asker: Sometimes I think lawyers love to use 2 multisyllabled words when 1 will do ! But on the other hand it's useful to fall back on a differentiation.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
12 hrs
  -> Many thanks:-)

neutral  Francois Boye: Why pure? https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/holdingcompany.asp
5 days
  -> Why not read my links instead of posting your one for 3rd time?
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