blanc contre plein

English translation: blank versus crowded canvas

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French term or phrase:blanc contre plein
English translation:blank versus crowded canvas
Entered by: Louisa Tchaicha

10:54 Feb 20, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / surréalisme
French term or phrase: blanc contre plein
Hi there,

I'm in need of your help! I would to understand this sentence in order to translate it :)

My text is about an artist who has some psychological issues (which obviously come out in her artistic creations..)

Des vecteurs artiste X en use et abuse : pour preuve le foisonnement des supports de son œuvre, son bestiaire, sa colorimétrie, les médias qu’elle utilise. Formes érectiles, noir contre lumière, blanc contre plein sont autant de caméras embarquées dans les méandres de son cerveau…dès les débuts et le « surréalisme pop » des premiers dessins !

It's this sentence that is just absurd to me:
"blanc contre plein sont autant de caméras embarquées dans les méandres de son cerveau"



Thank you
Louisa Tchaicha
Tunisia
Local time: 21:02
blank versus crowded canvas
Explanation:
Unlike a painter, for example, who starts with a blank canvas to which paint is gradually added, the photographer starts with everything-an infinitely crowded canvas, as it were-and progressively removes distracting elements from view.
http://spaciousfaith.com/2011/06/

The crowded canvas of Marc Chagall’s 1913 painting, Paris Through the Window, is replete with astonishing images. A sphinx-like cat shares the “City of Light” with an upside-down train and a daring sky-diver floating to the earth from the Eiffel tower on a primitive parachute. Look closely at the Janus-faced figure in the foreground and you will see a detail that is easy to miss. There is a small golden heart, held in the palm of the hand of this enigmatic man.
http://calitreview.com/15119

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If you feel that this needs to apply to all the various media used by the artist, which I suspect may be the case, it would be helpful if you could let us know whether they were all 2-D. If 2-D and 3-D, then a bit more complex. How about rewriting the sentence: the various canvases (ie figurative meaning) or supports which he/she leaves blank or fills.

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Glad to help, loulou79
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Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:02
Grading comment
Thank you everyone for your input!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2blank versus crowded canvas
Helen Shiner
4 +1emptiness and fullness
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
4dark versus light or filled up versus blank are as many...
David Vaughn
4white areas against filled space
Paul Hirsh
3raw and painted canvass
Laurette Tassin
3white on solid
polyglot45
3blankness contrasted with busyness
B D Finch
3positive versus negative space
Terry Richards


Discussion entries: 14





  

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dark versus light or filled up versus blank are as many...


Explanation:
changed punctuation and order for clarity

David Vaughn
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raw and painted canvass


Explanation:
maintenant que la notion de *blanc* est éclairci

Laurette Tassin
France
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
emptiness and fullness


Explanation:
The tension between light and dark, emptiness and fullness, etc.

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RomanianRomanian
PRO pts in category: 8
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Asker: Thank you


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agree  kashew
3 hrs
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white on solid


Explanation:
solid colour - this being the meaning of "plein" in a printing context

polyglot45
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blankness contrasted with busyness


Explanation:
"as the visual 'busyness' of his demeanour is balanced by vocal inactivity so ... Without plots in which restraint can be displayed, the blankness of the hero's ..."
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0415333431...

www.bestofneworleans.com › Visual Arts › Art Review
"Here the blankness is minimal, an enigmatic counterpoint to the precise art historical busyness of the adjacent pieces. Chinese Man appears ..."

imageobjecttext.wordpress.com/2012/01/07/wintery-thoughts/
"Ann Jones – Art and Writing ... Gerhard Richter, Abstract Painting 912-1, 2009 ... I love the blankness of Richter's white surface, occasionally punctuated ... but I also love the busyness of Doig's mountain scene with its slopes ..."

B D Finch
France
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positive versus negative space


Explanation:
Another option that (I think) nicely retains the original contrast. There again, I'm an engineer so what would I know? :)

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See my discussion entry for the wordplay involved.

Terry Richards
France
Local time: 22:02
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Helen Shiner: This would be fine for sculpture or some kind of constructed form, though maybe a slight over-translation here./A day in the life of an arts translator!
31 mins
  -> I think over-translation may be justified given the over-blown nature of the original :)

disagree  B D Finch: That would be "espace positif et négatif" or even "plein et vide". I do, however, disagree with Helen as positive & negative space are also important in drawing and painting.// Not impossible, but arguably white can be positive rather than negative space.
2 hrs
  -> Well, the plein is there and it seems possible to me that the author used blanc instead of vide to contrast, as a play on words, with the noir in the preceeding clause.//This blanc is "blank" rather than "white" & the noir is "darkness" not "black"
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white areas against filled space


Explanation:
or some combination thereof

Paul Hirsh
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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
blank versus crowded canvas


Explanation:
Unlike a painter, for example, who starts with a blank canvas to which paint is gradually added, the photographer starts with everything-an infinitely crowded canvas, as it were-and progressively removes distracting elements from view.
http://spaciousfaith.com/2011/06/

The crowded canvas of Marc Chagall’s 1913 painting, Paris Through the Window, is replete with astonishing images. A sphinx-like cat shares the “City of Light” with an upside-down train and a daring sky-diver floating to the earth from the Eiffel tower on a primitive parachute. Look closely at the Janus-faced figure in the foreground and you will see a detail that is easy to miss. There is a small golden heart, held in the palm of the hand of this enigmatic man.
http://calitreview.com/15119

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-02-20 13:06:00 GMT)
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If you feel that this needs to apply to all the various media used by the artist, which I suspect may be the case, it would be helpful if you could let us know whether they were all 2-D. If 2-D and 3-D, then a bit more complex. How about rewriting the sentence: the various canvases (ie figurative meaning) or supports which he/she leaves blank or fills.

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Note added at 6 days (2012-02-27 10:20:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to help, loulou79

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:02
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 348
Grading comment
Thank you everyone for your input!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  kashew: Hi, Helen; I was thinking along the same lines, "emptiness v. fullness".
28 mins
  -> Hi Kashew, empty versus full canvas would also work fine.

agree  Philippa Smith
47 mins
  -> Thanks, Philippa

neutral  David Vaughn: It seems the atists works with other media than (just) paint. Canvas could work with flat media - less so with sculpture. One would have to be careful in phrasing to make sure the figurative meaning of canvas was implied.
55 mins
  -> I make exactly this point in my discussion entry - but one does need to mention which kind of support in EN. I think many media are referred to, as you yourself have said. It is just a question of which one is which or if it applies to all media.

neutral  Just Opera: not canvas, they are talking about drawings here...
57 mins
  -> See my comment to David above; if drawings then 'sheet/s' rather than canvas, but medium/media not entirely clear

neutral  B D Finch: I think this is possible but runs into some of the objections raised by DV and JO. The actual medium/media used are not specified in the extract given.// Of course, "canvas" can be used metaphorically.
2 hrs
  -> Evidently, you haven't read my comments about the media concerned. Re your comments elsewhere, one does not usually talk about negative space in respect of 2-D work, hence my limited agree with that option.
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