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si condizionano a vicenda circolarmente

English translation: the law which demands that the species and the individual should condition one another.

14:56 May 15, 2011
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / Mysticism
Italian term or phrase: si condizionano a vicenda circolarmente
Philosophy of Henri Bergson re: mysticism.

"Il misticismo è, cioè, una presa di contatto diretta con lo sforzo creatore che appartiene a Dio, se non è Dio stesso. 'Scossa nelle sue profundità, l'anima cessa de girare su se stessa sfuggendo per un istante alla legge per cui la specie e l'individuo **si condizionano a vicenda circolarmente.** Si ferma, come se ascoltasse una voce che chiama; poi si lascia portare diritta in avanti. Non percepisce direttamente la forza che la muove, ma ne sente l'indefinibile presenza o la intuisce per mezzo di una visione simbolica. Sopravviene allora una immensità de gioia. Dio è presente ed essa in lui. Non ci sono più misteri; i problemi scompaiono, le oscurità si dissipano, è una illuminazione...' 'Dio è amore e oggetto de amore; tutto l'apporto del misticismo consiste in questo. Di questo duplice amore il mistico non finirà mai di parlare. Ma l'amore divino non è qualcosa di Dio, è Dio stesso.'"

Grazie,

Barbara
Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 07:47
English translation:the law which demands that the species and the individual should condition one another.
Explanation:
quotation in English in Internet

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Expanded quote , "the soul ceases to revolve round itself and escapes for a moment from the law which demands that the species and the individual should condition one another. It stops, as though to listen to a voice calling. Then it lets itself go, straight onward. It does not directly perceive the force that moves it,
but it feels an indefinable presence or divines it through a symbolic vision. Then comes a boundless joy, an all-absorbing ecstasy or an enthralling rapture: God is there, and the soul is in God. Mystery is no more. Problems vanish, darkness is
dispelled; everything is flooded with light. (219)"

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Thanks for the compliment, Barbara! Just curious to find out who Bergson was and what he said, and had the luck of stumbling on the right piece of writing!
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Lorraine Buckley (X)
Italy
Local time: 13:47
Grading comment
Thanks again.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2both influence each other
Tom in London
4 +1condition one another reciprocally
Thomas Roberts
5the law which demands that the species and the individual should condition one another.
Lorraine Buckley (X)
3determine one another without solution of continuity
Debora Grosso
3influence each other in a cyclical way
Danila Moro
2...are in a perfect harmony...
corallia


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
condition one another reciprocally


Explanation:
reciprocally renders the concept of "circularly" in English in this context.

Thomas Roberts
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James (Jim) Davis: What I would have posted.
1 hr
  -> Thanks Jim. A blast from the past this question, and what a relief I don't have to read guys like this any more.
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
both influence each other


Explanation:
try this

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  darwilliam: was going to be my guess, yes that's the way I'd put it.
3 mins
  -> thanks - it's more simple and succinct.
agree  Amanda Jane Lowles
32 mins
neutral  James (Jim) Davis: I feel that influence is too casual, too weak here.
40 mins
neutral  Thomas Roberts: I would go with Jim: influencing and conditioning are different concepts.
6 hrs
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
determine one another without solution of continuity


Explanation:
'without solution of continuity' with reference to the causal (circular )
line that normally links species and individuals.

Debora Grosso
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Italian
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
the law which demands that the species and the individual should condition one another.


Explanation:
quotation in English in Internet

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-05-15 16:20:28 GMT)
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Expanded quote , "the soul ceases to revolve round itself and escapes for a moment from the law which demands that the species and the individual should condition one another. It stops, as though to listen to a voice calling. Then it lets itself go, straight onward. It does not directly perceive the force that moves it,
but it feels an indefinable presence or divines it through a symbolic vision. Then comes a boundless joy, an all-absorbing ecstasy or an enthralling rapture: God is there, and the soul is in God. Mystery is no more. Problems vanish, darkness is
dispelled; everything is flooded with light. (219)"

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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-05-15 17:46:30 GMT)
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Thanks for the compliment, Barbara! Just curious to find out who Bergson was and what he said, and had the luck of stumbling on the right piece of writing!


    Reference: http://www.mmisi.org/pr/09_01/germino.pdf
Lorraine Buckley (X)
Italy
Local time: 13:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks again.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks a lot. You're obviously much better at research than I am!

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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
influence each other in a cyclical way


Explanation:
Intimacy and identity may continue to influence each other in a cyclical way, with advances in identity development promoting deeper intimacy and deeper intimacy leading to further identity consolidation.

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0072491418/student_vie...

Danila Moro
Italy
Local time: 13:47
Works in field
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4
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22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
...are in a perfect harmony...


Explanation:
possibile?

corallia
Local time: 13:47
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian
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