Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

motonave and M/N

English translation:

(medium-size) motor vessel and M/V

Added to glossary by Adrian MM.
Sep 23, 2020 00:43
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Italian term

motonave and M/N

Italian to English Other Transport / Transportation / Shipping official classification of a ship
Hi,

I am hoping that someone can help me with finding the appropriate translation for M/N before the name of a ship. The text reads "... imbarcato sulla M/N .... (name of ship)". I understand that M/N stands for "motonave", but when I look up that word in an Italian to English dictionary, I get nothing helpful- "motorship" or "motor vessel". Italian definitions I've found aren't helpful for my purposes either, along the lines of "nave mercantile con apparato motore a combustione interna per il trasporto di merci o passeggieri." So, if possible, I would like your views on the meaning of "motonave" and the appropriate English abbreviation.
Your help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Isobel
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Sep 24, 2020 10:12: Adrian MM. Created KOG entry

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Discussion

Wolfgang Hager Sep 23, 2020:
M/B MB is an abbreviation used, e.g., in yacht a charter prospectus, but not as an official designation in a ship's document

Proposed translations

13 hrs
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(medium-size) motor vessel and M/V

I've traditionally used m/v or M/V - but never M/S after being ticked off - for using motor ship - by a City of London Notary and Shipping Solicitors who - laughably - have sunk without a trace.

Though the security interest is called a 'ship mortgage' or 'ship's lien', there is a distinction in the dimensions of a boat, ship and vessel.
Example sentence:

MV (M/V) Motor Vessel[7] (interchangeable with MS) - NO!

Generally smaller and less complex vessels are 'boats', whilst larger and more complex vessels are 'ships'. As a general rule, you can put a boat on a ship, but you can't put a ship on a boat.

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks very much. Adrian - I appreciate your clear direction on this one. I take Phil's point, though, about the lack of match between category and actual usage, likened to the situation with "sailing ship", in his comment to Wolfgang. Thanks again Isobel"
1 hr

M.S.

I don't know why you consider motor ship "nothing helpful". Usually pronounced motor vessel, because motor ship is bureaucratese. But it is what it is.
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : I don't understand your explanation.
3 hrs
nobody says "motorship", but that is the official term at the basis of the abbreviation. I live on a S.S, and no one says sailing ship, either
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