Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

images au trait

English translation:

line drawings

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Dec 18, 2017 16:48
6 yrs ago
French term

images au trait

French to English Tech/Engineering Photography/Imaging (& Graphic Arts) used in a medical context
This is a neuropsychological report for a patient who experienced undesirable effects from a pharmaceutical drug. The effects were neurological and psychological in nature. These are the results under the 'Language' category and I am unsure as to what this test entailed exactly:

La dénomination d'images au trait et la dénomination de couleurs sous contrainte temporelle sont dans les normes.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks

Alison
Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 line drawings
4 -1 bi-level or monochrome images
Change log

Dec 19, 2017 14:47: Tony M changed "Field" from "Other" to "Tech/Engineering" , "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "used in a medical context"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (1): philgoddard

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Discussion

Sue Davis Dec 19, 2017:
@Drmanu I'm afraid you are making a leap that is not justified by the information available. I think we need to translate the terms that are in the source text
Tony M Dec 19, 2017:
@ Manu I really don't know what is giving you a problem here? The term asked is indeed clear and unamlbiguous (at least to anyone with the necessary technical knowledge in the field) -- and Sue has given a perfect explanation of the overall meaning. I think you are simply over-thinking this.
Drmanu49 Dec 19, 2017:
Better ask the author what is meant in that case, but how would you translate the whole "unambiguous" sentence??? If the sentence was as clear as you claim it to be, we would not be having this discussion.
Tony M Dec 19, 2017:
@ Manu Whatever you "feel", you can't argue with the meaning of the technical terms!
While line art MAY be monochrome (though it doesn't by any means HAVE to be!), 'monochrome' is by no means only line art.
Leaving asside what you feel you'd like it to mean, there's no escaping the meaning of the totally clear and unambiguous source term -- unless you think you know better than the writer and would seek to re-write the source text to be what you THINK it should have been?
Drmanu49 Dec 19, 2017:
Sorry to disagree Tony but I feel that perception of colours or monochrome is the issue here.
Alison Wedley (asker) Dec 19, 2017:
Thanks for all your responses / ideas. This is a difficult one to understand it has to be said. I can't really find any reference to this kind of test. There is a reference to line drawing identification on this page, with an example. http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/publications/in-vivo/Vol1_Iss6_...
Tony M Dec 19, 2017:
@ Manu No, it is talking about 2 separate aspects of perception:
1) Identifying things from line drawings of them (i.e. simplified, perhaps stylized images)
2) Identifying colours correctly.

There is nothing to say these are talking about characteristics of THE SAME images
Drmanu49 Dec 18, 2017:
As mentioned in my answer, the source text mentions specifically "dénomination de couleurs" which is why I think the issue is colour and monochrome image definitions being affected or not by the drug.
Sue Davis Dec 18, 2017:
@Drmanu - Apologies I couldn't see where you answer came from. However I think trait refers to a line, rather than a colour (see wordref ref).

Proposed translations

+4
15 mins
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line drawings

https://www.meubliz.com/definition/dessin_au_trait/

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Note added at 16 mins (2017-12-18 17:04:18 GMT)
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Un dessin au trait ne représente que les contours des objets. Il n'indique pas leur modelé ou relief à l'intérieur du contour par des effets d' ombre et de lumière.

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Note added at 18 mins (2017-12-18 17:06:42 GMT)
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I'm not familiar with the test, but it sounds as if the patient was asked to name objects etc from line drawing images ie represented just by their contours.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2017-12-18 19:28:20 GMT)
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This paper describe the recognition of line drawings as a neurological test in a patient who had suffered a brain infarct
file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/429762%20(1).pdf

Here, we report on a patient with visual agnosia for
line drawings and silhouettes following an ischaemic
stroke in the region of the right posterior cerebral artery......


The patient’s visual recognition ability was examined
using real objects, photographs, line drawings and
silhouette pictures. T


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Note added at 2 hrs (2017-12-18 19:39:09 GMT)
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http://www.wordreference.com/fren/trait

here trait is given as a line, in relation to drawing
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Yes, probably simplified images, easy to identify, without the ambiguity or subjectiive elements that might result from a photo.
44 mins
Thanks Tony!
agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thanks Phil!
agree Rachel Fell
1 hr
Thanks Rachel!
agree Terry Richards
16 hrs
Thanks Terry!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Sue"
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1 hr

bi-level or monochrome images

This seems to be opposed to colour images so I would go for this

Bi-level image
www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Bi-level image&item...

Traduire cette page
Binary images are also called bi-level or two-level. This means that each pixel is stored as a single bit—i.e., a 0 or 1. The names black-and-white, B&W, monochrome or monochromatic are often used for this concept, but may also designate any images that have only one sample per pixel, such as grayscale images.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Sue Davis : do you have any references that relate to the question?
36 mins
From the source text I understand that colour is opposed to monochrome
disagree Tony M : 'bi-level' is not by any means the standard graphics term, and 'monochrome' is just plain wrong -- that could simply indicate B&W half-tone images, quite different from 'line art' / This is a standard graphics term, can't twist it to mean what you like.
12 hrs
Line art is monochrome and I feel the issue is perception of colours or monochrome.
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