Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

the first time

English answer:

(in the given context) in the first place

Added to glossary by Jack Doughty
Apr 1, 2017 10:02
7 yrs ago
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English term

the first time

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Hello everyone,

A related challenge for businesses—and an extreme annoyance for consumers and complainers—is the inability to provide customer service representatives easy access to all information necessary to resolve problems.

How maddening is it when you call a company and enter your account number on your phone’s keypad, only to have to immediately repeat your number once you’re connected with a representative?

Why did they ask for the number the first time? Is this a joke? An intelligence test? I hate this. You hate this. Research proves it: 85 per-cent of consumers feel negative toward businesses that require them to provide information multiple times. That statistic causes me to think these two things: “Of course” and “Who are the 15 percent who are not bothered by this, and how do they have so much free time?”

Although I'm not sure what account number they are talking about (unless the company is a bank), the problem for me is the phrase "the first time" in "Why did they ask for the number the first time?"

Does it really mean "Why did they ask for the number in the first place?/Why did they ask for the number at all?", i.e. simply "Why did they ask for the number?"

Or do they mean "Why did they ask for the number _for_ the first time?"

Thank you.
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Apr 3, 2017 14:17: Jack Doughty Created KOG entry

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in the first place

Your suggestion "in the first place" is OK.
Why does the information you have from the company tell you to enter your number on the keypad if someone is going to ask you for it anyway?
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M
3 mins
Thank you, Tony.
agree Yvonne Gallagher
5 mins
Thank you.
agree Yasutomo Kanazawa
2 hrs
Thank you.
agree acetran
3 hrs
Thank you.
agree AllegroTrans
4 hrs
Thank you.
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15 mins

in the first place

They asked for it two times: once on your keypad, and then the person who answers the phone asks you for it verbally.

It often seems pointless that they should ask you to enter it via your keypad — especially since if you CAN'T enter it for some reason, you can often get connected anyway.

As for 'account no.', of course it isn't only banks with whom we have accounts — the phone / water / gas / electricity company will each have their own 'customer account / reference number'.
Peer comment(s):

agree Yasutomo Kanazawa
2 hrs
Thanks, Yasutomo-san!
agree acetran
3 hrs
Thanks, Ace!
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+1
14 mins

why bother asking at all

you kow when you phone a company and the automatic system asks for you ref no. or account no but finally when a human (the service rep) answers, they ask for that same bit of info again. *85% of people find this really anoying.

What should happen is that that number (answered) pops on through to the rep's screen so they can get down to answering your questions faster or at least ask you a diffferent question...maybe an address to confirm identity or another security question.
But it's ridiculous and annoying to be asked the same question a second time

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Note added at 16 mins (2017-04-01 10:18:50 GMT)
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typo: kNow
Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans : hear hear!
4 hrs
Thanks. I'm definitely in the 85% category! I hate it!!
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