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Ordinário

English translation: Ordinary

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Portuguese term or phrase:Ordinário
English translation:Ordinary
Entered by: Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira

03:30 Oct 28, 2023
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Religion
Portuguese term or phrase: Ordinário
"...celebrações eucarísticas e outros serviços eclesiásticos com o consentimento do Ordinário."
É uma carta da Arquidiocese da minha cidade, informando que concorda em enviar um padre para acompanhar uma imagem de Nossa Senhora para o exterior. Acredito que "Ordinário", neste caso, se refira ao Arcebispo, que é quem está concedendo esta autorização.
Andy Kusanagi
Brazil
Local time: 23:50
Ordinary
Explanation:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ordinary
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Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira
Brazil
Grading comment
Quite clearly defined. Found it on Michaelis too, so I'm going with it.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4Ordinary
Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira
4 +4diocesan bishop
Nick Taylor
4 +1archbishop
philgoddard
5Ordinary Bishop/Archbishop
Diego Martins


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Ordinary


Explanation:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ordinary

Luciano Eduardo de Oliveira
Brazil
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Quite clearly defined. Found it on Michaelis too, so I'm going with it.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Clauwolf
5 hrs
agree  Oliver Simões: You nailed it.
8 hrs
agree  Mario Freitas:
9 hrs
agree  Antônio Souza
2 days 8 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
archbishop


Explanation:
I know ordinary is correct, strictly speaking, but I would use a word that everyone will understand.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Simone Taylor: Especially not to cause any confusion with the other meaning of ordinary.
38 mins
agree  Paulinho Fonseca
4 hrs
agree  Arthur Vasconcelos
6 hrs
disagree  Oliver Simões: References, please. Not an archbishop for sure, per the reference posted by Luciano. https://dol-in.org/role-of-bishops-archbishops-and-cardinals...
7 hrs
  -> Andy says it's the archbishop, and I have no reason to doubt his word.
neutral  Adrian MM.: It's Brazil: https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/619360-nao-e-seu-bisp...
8 hrs
neutral  Mario Freitas: Not the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_the_Catholic_Chur...
8 hrs
disagree  Antônio Souza: Not the same concept
2 days 7 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
diocesan bishop


Explanation:
diocesan bishop

Nick Taylor
Local time: 03:50
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Adrian MM.: For Brazil: https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/619360-nao-e-seu-bisp...
4 hrs
agree  Oliver Simões: That's the meaning. "Ordinary" sounds like a more accurate translation, though.
5 hrs
agree  Mario Freitas: Yes, this is also a correct solution.
5 hrs
agree  Mark Robertson
1 day 23 hrs
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13 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Ordinary Bishop/Archbishop


Explanation:
Pelas fontes que eu coloco como referência, um ordinário pode ser tanto um bispo, quanto um arcebispo. Por isso, há de haver uma pesquisa para se certificar sobre quem se trata.

Eu pesquisaria a posição do oficial da Santa Sé, para usar o termo mais correto, mas nunca usaria apenas um título, como ordinary ou bishop pois; primeiro, a categoria de ordinário abrange o ordinário simples, o ordinário coadjutor, ordinário auxiliar etc. E segundo, nem todo bispo/acrebispo é ordinário, mas todo ordinário é um bispo/arcebispo.

Example sentence(s):
  • An auxiliary bishop is appointed by the Holy Father at the request of the Ordinary to assist him in the governance of the diocese and take his place if he is absent or impede

    https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-the-difference-between-an-ordinary-auxiliary-and-coadjutor-bishop/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinary_(church_officer)
Diego Martins
China
Local time: 10:50
Native speaker of: Portuguese
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