plays them up

English translation: leads them / accompanies them to their death, playing music to which they dance

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English term or phrase:plays them up
Selected answer:leads them / accompanies them to their death, playing music to which they dance
Entered by: Charles Davis

18:12 May 8, 2017
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters / history, 1600
English term or phrase: plays them up
To further his understanding of the locals, Jerome has purchased The History of Scotland, written in Latin by Hector Boece. Within its pages he – and, a few decades later, William Shakespeare, via Holinshed – first encounters the macabre tale of the Scottish king, Macbeth. Jerome is also enthralled by the “most wonderful” fortitude of the Scots, who take a piper with them to their executions: “he, who is himself often one of the condemned, plays them up dancing to their death.”
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leads them / accompanies them to their death, playing music to which they dance
Explanation:
"Play up" can mean to accentuate the importance of something; but that's not what it means here. This passage, which Cardano is using to illustrate the fortitude of the Scots, means that the piper accompanies them or leads them up to death, playing music, to which the condemned prisoners dance, showing how brave and unconcerned they are even though they are about to die.

So "plays them up to their death" means "plays while they go to their death".

This is quoted in Morley's life of Cardano:
https://books.google.es/books?redir_esc=y&id=Xz4DAAAAYAAJ&q=...

It comes from Cardano's dialogue De Morte, whose Spanish translator, José Manuel García Valverde, has kindly posted the original Latin text and his translation on academic.com (you have to register, but it's free). Here they are:

LAT: "pulsando saltantes illos ducit ad mortem"
SP: "tocando los conduce danzantes a la muerte"
http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/48886141/TEXT... (pp. 59, 60, near top).

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Sorry; the site I mentioned is called academia.edu, not academic.com.

Cardano's Latin text (as you probably don't me to tell you) literally means:
"playing, he leads them dancing to death".

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And my reference to the Valverde edition was wrong; the Latin is at the top of p. 60 (p. 108 of the file), and the Spanish is near the top of p. 61 (p. 109 of the file).
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Charles Davis
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +8leads them / accompanies them to their death, playing music to which they dance
Charles Davis
4 -2make them seem more important then they really are
Michael Powers (PhD)
5 -3portrays tem
Phoenix III
4 -3excruciates /displeases them by dancing when they are being executed
Morad Seif
Summary of reference entries provided
Pipers playing people up and down, in and out
B D Finch

Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
make them seem more important then they really are


Explanation:
I cannot explain it in Italian. It is an idiom.

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play up
Also found in: Dictionary, Thesaurus, Medical, Legal, Financial, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
play someone or something up
to make someone or something seem to be more important. The director tried to play Ann up, but she was not really a star. Try to play up the good qualities of our product.
See also: play, up
play something up
to emphasize something; to be a booster of something. The press played the scandal up so much that everyone became bored with it. They really played up the scandal.
See also: play, up
McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 19:37
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 83

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Not really applicable here. 'to play up' can also mean 'to misbehave', but that isn't the meaning here either.
58 mins

disagree  B D Finch: Not in this context.
17 hrs

disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: with Tony and BDF
1 day 14 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -3
portrays tem


Explanation:
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Meant to give it a 4 level of confidence and 5 popped up. :0(

Phoenix III
United States
Local time: 19:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 2

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: I don't think a piper can be said to "portray" anyone.
48 mins

disagree  Tony M: That wouldn't even be a normal meaning of 'to play up' in modern EN, and as Phil says, doesn't really make any sense in the context.
55 mins

disagree  AllegroTrans: doesn't make sense
4 hrs

disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: with Tony
16 hrs
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +8
leads them / accompanies them to their death, playing music to which they dance


Explanation:
"Play up" can mean to accentuate the importance of something; but that's not what it means here. This passage, which Cardano is using to illustrate the fortitude of the Scots, means that the piper accompanies them or leads them up to death, playing music, to which the condemned prisoners dance, showing how brave and unconcerned they are even though they are about to die.

So "plays them up to their death" means "plays while they go to their death".

This is quoted in Morley's life of Cardano:
https://books.google.es/books?redir_esc=y&id=Xz4DAAAAYAAJ&q=...

It comes from Cardano's dialogue De Morte, whose Spanish translator, José Manuel García Valverde, has kindly posted the original Latin text and his translation on academic.com (you have to register, but it's free). Here they are:

LAT: "pulsando saltantes illos ducit ad mortem"
SP: "tocando los conduce danzantes a la muerte"
http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/48886141/TEXT... (pp. 59, 60, near top).

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Sorry; the site I mentioned is called academia.edu, not academic.com.

Cardano's Latin text (as you probably don't me to tell you) literally means:
"playing, he leads them dancing to death".

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-05-08 19:25:26 GMT)
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And my reference to the Valverde edition was wrong; the Latin is at the top of p. 60 (p. 108 of the file), and the Spanish is near the top of p. 61 (p. 109 of the file).

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 01:37
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 572
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks!!

Asker: Thank you all!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: I think "up" may mean "as they ascended the scaffold".
8 mins
  -> It could; I read it as "up to", in the sense of "as far as". Thanks!

agree  Tony M
16 mins
  -> Thanks, Tony!

agree  lorenab23: Yes, "who take a piper with them to their executions" very important clue here ;-)
34 mins
  -> True! Many thanks, Lorena :-)

agree  AllegroTrans
1 hr
  -> Thanks!

agree  Yasutomo Kanazawa
8 hrs
  -> Thanks, Yasutomo-san :)

agree  Yvonne Gallagher: I'd have thought this was simple so don't understand how so many could have got it so wrong//:-))...
15 hrs
  -> Thanks a lot! This is how I understood it straight off. I think it's probably tricky for non-natives, and maybe it's also a matter of familiarity with literary language. I hunted out the original texts just to try to nail it for sceptics :)

agree  B D Finch: "Plays them" here = accompanies them with music and "up" is probably because executions, being public, were performed on a platform.// See my reference entry.
16 hrs
  -> Thanks! I agree with the first point and the second is a possibility, though I am still doubtful whether "up" implies verticality, since that idea is not present in the source text.

agree  acetran
21 hrs
  -> Thanks, acetran :)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
excruciates /displeases them by dancing when they are being executed


Explanation:
Plays somebody up: to cause difficulties or pain for someone.
My back’s been playing me up all day.

Morad Seif
Türkiye
Local time: 02:37
Native speaker of: Persian (Farsi)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: Doesn't work or make sense in the context; we can safely assume that it is 'they' who are 'dancing to their death'; and this is supposed to be an example of their 'fortitude'
12 mins
  -> Thank you for your comment.

disagree  AllegroTrans: Your explanation refers to another meaning entirely; the vital clue is in the word "fortitude" in the asker's text plus the essential cultural component of the Scottish bagpipes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWP25QqVdiU
2 hrs
  -> Thank you for guiding me.

disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: with Tony
15 hrs
  -> Ok. Thanks
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Reference comments


18 hrs peer agreement (net): +4
Reference: Pipers playing people up and down, in and out

Reference information:
www.scotsman.com/news/return-from-a-war-that-never-was-1-611416
A piper played them down the steps, then inside the arrivals hall, they embraced the loved ones they had not seen for six months.

humanistcelebrantgeorge.blogspot.com/2011/07/To round off their wedding, my friend, Robbie Innes, the Piper, played them down the aisle with the Canadian National anthem which he had transposed for the ...

www.youandyourwedding.co.uk/forum/the-ceremony/how...a-pipe... Jun 2008 - We are paying £60 for piper to play me in and out of ceremony and ... We're having a piper before I arrive and piping me in and us out and up to ...



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www.scotsman.com/news/return-from-a-war-that-never-was-1-61...
A piper played them down the steps, then inside the arrivals hall, they embraced the loved ones they had not seen for six months.

humanistcelebrantgeorge.blogspot.com
To round off their wedding, my friend, Robbie Innes, the Piper, played them down the aisle with the Canadian National anthem which he had transposed for the ...

www.youandyourwedding.co.uk/forum/the-ceremony/how...a-pipe...
We are paying £60 for piper to play me in and out of ceremony and ... We're having a piper before I arrive and piping me in and us out and up to ...

B D Finch
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 192

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Tony M
8 mins
  -> Thanks Tony
agree  Charles Davis: Good examples to show that "play them" is still current in this sense. But it doesn't prove your point about "up", since it could (and I believe does) go with "to": "up to". And as I say, Cardano just says "ad", so he didn't mean ascending.
14 mins
  -> Thanks Charles. Yes, it could simply mean "up to" = "as far as". If the piper was one of the condemned, he could hardly play them any further than that.
agree  AllegroTrans
7 hrs
  -> Thanks AT
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
20 hrs
  -> Thanks Gallagy
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