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masticadas

English translation: predigested

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Spanish term or phrase:masticadas
English translation:predigested
Entered by: Rick Larg

22:20 Jan 31, 2016
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Tourism & Travel / Philosophy of tourism ?
Spanish term or phrase: masticadas
Al igual que el edificio-icono de la ciudad-espectáculo muestra una gran indeferencia por la urbe que le rodea, los complejos turísticos contemporáneos, los llamados resorts, se abstraen del territorio humano, histórico y geográfico donde se ubican, para crear simulacros e hyperrealities paralelas donde ofrecer vivencias ya **** masticadas**** . La industria turística postmoderna se ha especializado en extremo, parcelando los citados complejos según tipologías familiares para evitar interferencias en el disfrute del ocio: familias con niños, gente joven, tercera edad, parejas, etc. El súmmum aparece en los resorts especializados en parejas de recién casados, lugares con voluntad de facilitar experiencias edulcoradas exentas de autenticidad, haciendo participes a los turistas de entornos tematizados, que rayan el reino de lo kitsch.

From a catalogue of a(n) (artistic) photograph exhibtion.
Is the idea of 'masticado' here akin to 'second-hand', or rather (well) thought out and planned (by the hotelier)? Or something else? Whatever the case, what would be a nice turn of phrase here? All and any ideas more than welcome...
With many thanks.
Rick Larg
Spain
Local time: 13:23
predigested
Explanation:
Another possible and, I think, idiomatic way of reflecting the original metaphor. I do think this is the sense, as opposed to "raw" experience. The image is premastication, sometimes called "kiss feeding", whereby the mother chews the food and then passes it from her mouth to that of her infant child:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premastication

So literally "premasticated experience", which is in fact a possibility here, but I think it might sound more natural to refer to a variant of premastication found in some animals, involving passing regurgitated and therefore predigested food.

Arguably this metaphor should be retained because of its connection with the idea of consumption.

"David Sobel has argued that rather than being allowed freely to explore the natural world children are instead steered toward PowerPoint presentations, videos, and closely manicured guided trails that deliver predigested experiences."
Keeping the Wild: Against the Domestication of Earth, 10
https://books.google.es/books?id=DNC4AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA11&lpg=PA...

"According to the website for ATME, the Association for Travel Marketing Executives, the boomer generation will be a “pig in a python.” As the industry gears up to squeeze “the moneyed masses” through packaged and predigested experiences, might not aging boomers — so good at changing the game! — insist on a more informed and thoughtful experience? I hope the offerings in this book will help the “second journey” traveler choose wisely among the options and make the best of journeys."
http://www.secondjourney.org/Bookstore/Ody_LookInside.pdf
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 13:23
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4predigested
Charles Davis
4 +2spoon-fed
Robert Carter
3 +2ready-made
Adoración Bodoque Martínez
4tried and tested
neilmac
3cookie cutter
Maria Riva


  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
ready-made


Explanation:
I think this is what they mean.

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Note added at 20 mins (2016-01-31 22:40:53 GMT)
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A good example of the same thing, in my opinion:

https://books.google.ie/books?id=B-J0e2L-w_oC&pg=PA153&lpg=P...

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Note added at 28 mins (2016-01-31 22:48:21 GMT)
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Another example, directly related to tourism:
https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/101128/Ae13_2014...
"It is also important that tour leaders see themselves as experience enablers whose task is not to impose ready-made experiences but to concentrate on the consumers and empower them to experience whatever it is that they came to experience".



Adoración Bodoque Martínez
Ireland
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cecilia Gowar
54 mins
  -> Muchas gracias.
agree  lugoben
2 hrs
  -> Muchas gracias.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
spoon-fed


Explanation:
In keeping with the metaphor of the source, "spoon-fed" is possibly an option here, implying that tourists don't have to make any effort to consume the experiences offered them.

spoon-feed
tr.v. spoon-fed (-fĕd′), spoon-feed·ing, spoon-feeds
2. To treat (another) in a way that discourages independent thought or action, as by overindulgence.
3.
a. To provide (another) with knowledge or information in an oversimplified way.
b. To provide (knowledge or information) in an oversimplified way.
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spoon-fed


Robert Carter
Mexico
Local time: 05:23
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  David Ronder: Yes, though it might work better as a verb - where they spoon-feed experiences
7 hrs
  -> Yes David, thanks.
agree  Jacob Z. (X): Of the 4 existing suggestions I like this one the best.
9 hrs
  -> Thanks, James :-)
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
tried and tested


Explanation:
Tried and tested/trusted (British, American & Australian) also tried and true (American) - used by many people and proved to be effective.
"They ran a highly successful advertising campaign using a tried and tested formula."


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Nevertheless, the use of "masticadas" (literally "chewed up") rather than a more elegant/positive term, provides the negative slant of the original IMHO.


    Reference: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/tried-an...
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 13:23
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 93
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
predigested


Explanation:
Another possible and, I think, idiomatic way of reflecting the original metaphor. I do think this is the sense, as opposed to "raw" experience. The image is premastication, sometimes called "kiss feeding", whereby the mother chews the food and then passes it from her mouth to that of her infant child:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premastication

So literally "premasticated experience", which is in fact a possibility here, but I think it might sound more natural to refer to a variant of premastication found in some animals, involving passing regurgitated and therefore predigested food.

Arguably this metaphor should be retained because of its connection with the idea of consumption.

"David Sobel has argued that rather than being allowed freely to explore the natural world children are instead steered toward PowerPoint presentations, videos, and closely manicured guided trails that deliver predigested experiences."
Keeping the Wild: Against the Domestication of Earth, 10
https://books.google.es/books?id=DNC4AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA11&lpg=PA...

"According to the website for ATME, the Association for Travel Marketing Executives, the boomer generation will be a “pig in a python.” As the industry gears up to squeeze “the moneyed masses” through packaged and predigested experiences, might not aging boomers — so good at changing the game! — insist on a more informed and thoughtful experience? I hope the offerings in this book will help the “second journey” traveler choose wisely among the options and make the best of journeys."
http://www.secondjourney.org/Bookstore/Ody_LookInside.pdf

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 13:23
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 119
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks, Charles. I had been toying with the idea of 'cud' as in 'chewing the cud', but couldn't work out how to adapt so bovine a metaphor to the text here. Wood for the trees?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  patinba
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Pat!
agree  bizisyl
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, bizisyl :)
agree  Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
5 hrs
  -> Thanks, Karen!
agree  Michele Fauble
9 hrs
  -> Thanks, Michele :)
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2 days 21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
cookie cutter


Explanation:
something that is man-made, mass-produced or lacking any distinguishing characteristics.
modifier noun: cookie-cutter
"a cookie-cutter apartment in a high-rise building"

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Maria Riva
Canada
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
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