And the jury’s actually out

English translation: we don't really know yet and there's still a lot of debate about it

21:43 Oct 2, 2015
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English term or phrase: And the jury’s actually out
Hello everyone,

Singularity advocates will argue that future is arriving faster than it's ever arrived... ***And the jury’s actually out***. Big S curves are of course created of lots of little s curves. And in Ray’s books he has some very provocative diagrams showing the steady increase. But it all depends on the frame of reference, if you look at it over 10,000 years of course it's an upward trending line. We don’t live for 10,000 years, at least not yet

Does the phrase in question mean "it's not certain yet, we don't know exactly yet."
In other words, is it another version of the idiom "the jury is (still) out on something", or does it mean sometjing else?

Thank you.
Mikhail Korolev
Local time: 14:56
Selected answer:we don't really know yet and there's still a lot of debate about it
Explanation:
I would say

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Note added at 35 mins (2015-10-02 22:18:14 GMT)
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"actually" in this case means that nobody's sure ... in fact etc.

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Note added at 36 mins (2015-10-02 22:19:26 GMT)
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the fact of the matter is that etc.

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Note added at 51 mins (2015-10-02 22:34:47 GMT)
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as a matter of fact, nobody really knows
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David Hollywood
Local time: 08:56
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.

Thank you, David.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +5we don't really know yet and there's still a lot of debate about it
David Hollywood
4 +2there's no consensus
George Rabel
5no decision has been made or the answer is not yet certain
acetran


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
and the jury’s actually out
there's no consensus


Explanation:
That's that way I see it. I think you got the right idea. I don't think it means anything else

George Rabel
Local time: 07:56
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Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Shera Lyn Parpia
7 hrs
  -> Thank you

agree  Darius Saczuk: Yes, this is what it basically means.
15 hrs
  -> Thank you
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
and the jury’s actually out
we don't really know yet and there's still a lot of debate about it


Explanation:
I would say

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Note added at 35 mins (2015-10-02 22:18:14 GMT)
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"actually" in this case means that nobody's sure ... in fact etc.

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Note added at 36 mins (2015-10-02 22:19:26 GMT)
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the fact of the matter is that etc.

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Note added at 51 mins (2015-10-02 22:34:47 GMT)
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as a matter of fact, nobody really knows

David Hollywood
Local time: 08:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 116
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.

Thank you, David.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Cilian O'Tuama: and your final suggestion is...?
41 mins
  -> I think you're quite capable of making your choice of my options

agree  Veronika McLaren: the last, short answer probably suffices
1 hr
  -> thanks Veronika

agree  B D Finch
12 hrs

agree  Darius Saczuk
15 hrs

agree  AllegroTrans
1 day 21 hrs

agree  Phong Le
4 days
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
and the jury’s actually out
no decision has been made or the answer is not yet certain


Explanation:
If the jury is still (actually) out on a subject, no decision has been made or the answer is not yet certain.

Example: The jury's still out on whether animal experiments are really necessary. We asked people to comment on the latest male fashions, but it seems the jury's out.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/the jury is out

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/the-jury-...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the jury is s...






acetran
Native speaker of: Native in HindiHindi, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: Not "decision", so much as "consensus" in this context.
9 hrs
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