Dec 7, 2005 07:38
18 yrs ago
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Spanish term
la Gramática de Lebrija
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OK, I KNOW what the Gramática de Lebrija is, and I DO NOT WANT a translation or explanation of the term. What I DO WANT is an equivalent in English, something that has gone well out of fashion, but something that should also be related to the world of language teaching. My idea is "the purely grammatical approach [...] went out with (top hats and tails)", although instead of top hats and tails I need some outmoded English grammar book or teaching method, ... that most people will have heard of.
La indisoluble unión entre gramática y comunicación, en el ámbito de la adquisición de segundas lenguas es ya un hecho que nadie se atreve a cuestionar. El modelo gramatical puro, que se enseña como lección cerrada a aprender, no cabe ya, prácticamente desde la Gramática de Lebrija
any bright ideas?
La indisoluble unión entre gramática y comunicación, en el ámbito de la adquisición de segundas lenguas es ya un hecho que nadie se atreve a cuestionar. El modelo gramatical puro, que se enseña como lección cerrada a aprender, no cabe ya, prácticamente desde la Gramática de Lebrija
any bright ideas?
Proposed translations
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3 +1 | Kennedy's Latin Primer | Sean Lyle |
4 +1 | possibilities | tazdog (X) |
4 | more ideas | Andrea Gonzalez |
4 | grammar-translation method (of language teaching) | Michele Fauble |
Proposed translations
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Kennedy's Latin Primer
If you are looking for something related to grammatically-orientated language teaching which has gone out of fashion, which was general knowledge for reasonably educated people of an age with those educated in the last days of Franco (did anyone younger than about forty in Spain ever hear about Antonio de Nebrija at school?), I think this is a good match. The "text book" which was usually used with Kennedy was "Hillard and Botting", but although the name has a ring to it, it has not been re-published relatively recently, unlike Kennedy.
Yes, I know it has nothing to do with the Renaissance, the School of Toledo, or vernacular grammars, but then I don't think there was any widely-remembered grammar of English published in the late 15th century. (By the way, what an amazing year 1492 was for memorable events!)
If you are looking for something purely related to English as a foreign language, what about "L.G. Alexander"?
Another point, not relevant to your solution, is that this is the first time I have seen this as Lebrija, and not Nebrija. Elio Antonio de Nebrija (Antonio Martínez de Cala) was indeed from what is now known as Lebrija, but the reference books all seem to stick to the earlier version of the name, since the grammar was published as by Antonio Nebrissensis.
Yes, I know it has nothing to do with the Renaissance, the School of Toledo, or vernacular grammars, but then I don't think there was any widely-remembered grammar of English published in the late 15th century. (By the way, what an amazing year 1492 was for memorable events!)
If you are looking for something purely related to English as a foreign language, what about "L.G. Alexander"?
Another point, not relevant to your solution, is that this is the first time I have seen this as Lebrija, and not Nebrija. Elio Antonio de Nebrija (Antonio Martínez de Cala) was indeed from what is now known as Lebrija, but the reference books all seem to stick to the earlier version of the name, since the grammar was published as by Antonio Nebrissensis.
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Comment: "I like this idea, thanks."
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possibilities
8 Two pedagogical grammars of English for foreign learners
Ben Jonson's English Grammar
John Wallis's Grammatica Linguae Anglicanae
http://www.oup.com/elt/catalogue/isbn/0-19-442185-6?cc=gb
More:
1653 -- John Wallis's Grammatica Linguae Anglicanae is the first English grammar -- it is written entirely in Latin.
(Guess that would be out of style!!)
1794 - Lindley Murray's Grammar of the English Language becomes established in the by-then crowded field of such books.
http://www.ric.edu/rpotter/redletter.html
Think I'd go with the Latin one, myself.
Ben Jonson's English Grammar
John Wallis's Grammatica Linguae Anglicanae
http://www.oup.com/elt/catalogue/isbn/0-19-442185-6?cc=gb
More:
1653 -- John Wallis's Grammatica Linguae Anglicanae is the first English grammar -- it is written entirely in Latin.
(Guess that would be out of style!!)
1794 - Lindley Murray's Grammar of the English Language becomes established in the by-then crowded field of such books.
http://www.ric.edu/rpotter/redletter.html
Think I'd go with the Latin one, myself.
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more ideas
I hope this page helps you find what you are looking for.
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Spanish term (edited):
la Gram�tica de Lebrija
grammar-translation method (of language teaching)
It is a little like the obsolete "grammar-Translation" method of language learning.
www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/MegaBBS/thread-view.asp?thread...
Though the "grammar-translation" method had long been out of fashion, ...
www.nuspel.org/Ch7.html
www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/MegaBBS/thread-view.asp?thread...
Though the "grammar-translation" method had long been out of fashion, ...
www.nuspel.org/Ch7.html
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