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avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts

English translation: before it was officially established

07:57 Nov 15, 2005
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
French term or phrase: avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts
Context is the history of a Belgian medical foundation. Text is a website so I'm trying to keep the language straightforward and as jargon-free as possible. Any suggestions how to render this in plain English? "[The Foundation actually began its work a few months] before it was officially established by law" is my current version.

La fondation démarrait ses activitiés quelques mois avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts. Dans le cadre d'un accord préliminaire, la Commission d'Assistance Publique (CAP) de Bruxelles mit quelques locaux de l'hôpital Brugmann à Laeken à la disposition de la Fondation.
MoiraB
France
Local time: 02:38
English translation:before it was officially established
Explanation:
I would translate 'statuts' as 'articles of association', but if you are avoiding jargon then this means the same
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Karen Marston
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:38
Grading comment
This nicely side-steps the question of articles of association vs by(e)-laws (and there seems to be evidence of both used in conjunction with medical foundation). It also avoids jargon, which is always desirable! Thanks, everyone.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1before the official publication of its acts of associations
CMJ_Trans (X)
5before it came into official existence
david angel (X)
4 +1before it was officially established
Karen Marston
5before its founding or creation was formalized by or in the by laws
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
3 +1before the statutory officialisation of its creation
Francis MARC
4before its establishment was officially recognized by the Regulations
Besmir (X)


  

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before the official publication of its acts of associations


Explanation:
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Note added at 2005-11-15 09:18:59 (GMT)
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association (without the \"s\")

CMJ_Trans (X)
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: articles of association/agree-in Belgium, it's all official once the articles of association have been published in the Moniteur belge
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avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts
before the statutory officialisation of its creation


Explanation:
USE OF A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY - [ Traduire cette page ]
Thus, if a limited liability company is to be used to conduct business in Pennsylvania,
... A Massachusetts business trust is not a statutory creation under ...
www.buec.udel.edu/pollacks/ Downloaded%20SDP%20articles,%20etc/PA%20LIMLICO.htm - 82k -

Francis MARC
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Local time: 03:38
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agree  Randa El Nomeir
7 mins
neutral  writeaway: the statuts of a foundation are its articles of association/articles of incorporation (US).
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avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts
before it came into official existence


Explanation:
I don't think you need any reference to the law for your purposes: the 'statutes' of an organisation are just it's official rules and regulations. A school, for example, has a 'statut' which lays down how the school is governed, etc. You don't want to suggest that this has any more than an indirect relationship to government.

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avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts
before its establishment was officially recognized by the Regulations


Explanation:
[The Foundation actually began its work a few months] before its establishment was officially recognized by the Regulations.

I thought about your sentence a bit, and you could also go something like: The Foundation actually commenced working several months prior to official establishment as recognized by the Regulations.

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Note added at 1 hr 5 mins (2005-11-15 09:02:07 GMT)
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The reason I gave you second option is because it seems you instist on making things shorter and, God bless English language, gerund came to my mind.

Also, sorry, I made a mistake "prior to ITS official establishment as recognized by the Regulations."

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avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts
before it was officially established


Explanation:
I would translate 'statuts' as 'articles of association', but if you are avoiding jargon then this means the same

Karen Marston
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:38
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Grading comment
This nicely side-steps the question of articles of association vs by(e)-laws (and there seems to be evidence of both used in conjunction with medical foundation). It also avoids jargon, which is always desirable! Thanks, everyone.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  frenchloki (X): if you want to avoid jargon, this is fine
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avant que sa création ne soit officialisée par ses statuts
before its founding or creation was formalized by or in the by laws


Explanation:
statuts d'une association: the by-laws and nothing else

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Note added at 9 hrs 23 mins (2005-11-15 17:20:13 GMT)
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statuts are not articles of association; they are by-laws

the first thing you do when you create a company or non-profit..you write the by-laws with the Purpose in the First para...

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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