Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
velluto controtagliato
English translation:
two pile velvet
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Maria Emanuela Congia
Dec 22, 2009 14:10
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velluto contro tagliato
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Due teli con motivo a melagrana, velluto contro tagliato rosso cremisi, allucciolato d’oro, fili d’oro, ambito fiorentino, seconda metà sec. XVI.
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Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | two pile or counter cut velvet |
Shera Lyn Parpia
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| 3 | cut velvet |
Ambra Giuliani
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| 2 +1 | pile-on-pile velvet |
Panagiotis Andrias (X)
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Proposed translations
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Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
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two pile or counter cut velvet
definition here
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossario_di_tessitura
Velluto
tessuto che presenta sulla faccia del dritto un fitto pelo (velluto unito) o una serie di anelli (velluto riccio).Si può suddividere in diversi tipi fra i quali il più famoso è chiamato velluto soprarizzo. Esiste anche il velluto negativo dove il disegno è dato dal fondo e il velluto controtagliato .
this means that the background provides the design and this is describhed in various ways:
Permanent Arts & Antiques Internet Exposition - Exhibitor ...
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Counter-cut velvet stripe. Florence late XV century. Dim. 52x173 cm. Striscia in velluto controtagliato. Firenze tardo XV secolo. Dim. 52x173 cm. ...
www.yourwaytoflorence.com/arts.../a111o9_97.htm
see also this source whic I would consider very reliable:
http://www.florentine-persona.com/glossary.html
Velluto alto-basso/rilevato/controtagliato: two-pile velvet; the higher of the two cut piles absorbs more light and appears the darker shade.
I have found a couple referenbces to Venice cutted Velvet but they seem to me to be very bad translations
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossario_di_tessitura
Velluto
tessuto che presenta sulla faccia del dritto un fitto pelo (velluto unito) o una serie di anelli (velluto riccio).Si può suddividere in diversi tipi fra i quali il più famoso è chiamato velluto soprarizzo. Esiste anche il velluto negativo dove il disegno è dato dal fondo e il velluto controtagliato .
this means that the background provides the design and this is describhed in various ways:
Permanent Arts & Antiques Internet Exposition - Exhibitor ...
- [ Traduci questa pagina ]
Counter-cut velvet stripe. Florence late XV century. Dim. 52x173 cm. Striscia in velluto controtagliato. Firenze tardo XV secolo. Dim. 52x173 cm. ...
www.yourwaytoflorence.com/arts.../a111o9_97.htm
see also this source whic I would consider very reliable:
http://www.florentine-persona.com/glossary.html
Velluto alto-basso/rilevato/controtagliato: two-pile velvet; the higher of the two cut piles absorbs more light and appears the darker shade.
I have found a couple referenbces to Venice cutted Velvet but they seem to me to be very bad translations
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Ambra Giuliani
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cut velvet
I did some search and found a couple of site talking about "cut velvet" and the process it entails. In both cases it referred to antiques pieces. Here is how they descibed the process: "Cut velvet is based on the principle of nap which is created by weaving cut fibers perpendicularly into the surface of the fabric, so as to create a raised surface". "The "cut " effect of cut velvet is created by weaving a pattern of velvet against a background of napless fabric giving the material the appareance of brocade."
So the look is that of a velvet that, in some parts, has been cut low to the base of the fiber, while in effect it is not velvet but another fabric with velvet fibers woven into it.
The only picture I found of an antique cut velvet piece of fabric is that of a Persian piece sold at an antique auction in Florence in 2008. It is described having "cut velvet in red with blue and yellow." Which coincides with the description I found of the process.
I have a scarf, bought in Venice a few years ago, that is "cut velvet" done on silk and it really looks like velvet shorn around a colored pattern.
Not having a picture to look at, I am giving myself a "medium conf. lev," while I am 100% positive that the process described is correct according to my research.
Translated word by word it would be "velvet cut against". It sounds to me like the description of the process of weaving "against" (the background)
So the look is that of a velvet that, in some parts, has been cut low to the base of the fiber, while in effect it is not velvet but another fabric with velvet fibers woven into it.
The only picture I found of an antique cut velvet piece of fabric is that of a Persian piece sold at an antique auction in Florence in 2008. It is described having "cut velvet in red with blue and yellow." Which coincides with the description I found of the process.
I have a scarf, bought in Venice a few years ago, that is "cut velvet" done on silk and it really looks like velvet shorn around a colored pattern.
Not having a picture to look at, I am giving myself a "medium conf. lev," while I am 100% positive that the process described is correct according to my research.
Translated word by word it would be "velvet cut against". It sounds to me like the description of the process of weaving "against" (the background)
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pile-on-pile velvet
These were the multiple-pile velvets (velluto alto- basso and velluto rilevato), with the higher pile absorbing more light and appearing darker, ...
http://books.google.gr/books?id=P032OYRdRjYC&lpg=PA98&ots=5P...
10 Jul 2009 ... Velluto alto-basso/rilevato/controtagliato: two-pile velvet; the higher of the two cut piles absorbs more light and appears the darker shade ...
www.florentine-persona.com/glossary.html -
http://www.florentine-persona.com/glossary.html.
This is a figured fabric that has just two warps and at least two wefts. ... Pile On Pile Velvet (It: velluto alto-basso or soprariccio): A cut velvet with ...
realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/fabrictypes.htm
http://books.google.gr/books?id=raZtNNrucbwC&lpg=PA293&ots=q...
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Note added at 1 ώρα (2009-12-22 16:08:47 GMT)
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non ti ho suggerito two-pile perchè non si sa se effettivamente i livelli creati nel pelo dopo il taglio siano due...
ti ho messo anche la ref. con "multi-pile" caso mai la ritenga più opportuna...
http://books.google.gr/books?id=P032OYRdRjYC&lpg=PA98&ots=5P...
10 Jul 2009 ... Velluto alto-basso/rilevato/controtagliato: two-pile velvet; the higher of the two cut piles absorbs more light and appears the darker shade ...
www.florentine-persona.com/glossary.html -
http://www.florentine-persona.com/glossary.html.
This is a figured fabric that has just two warps and at least two wefts. ... Pile On Pile Velvet (It: velluto alto-basso or soprariccio): A cut velvet with ...
realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/fabrictypes.htm
http://books.google.gr/books?id=raZtNNrucbwC&lpg=PA293&ots=q...
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Note added at 1 ώρα (2009-12-22 16:08:47 GMT)
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non ti ho suggerito two-pile perchè non si sa se effettivamente i livelli creati nel pelo dopo il taglio siano due...
ti ho messo anche la ref. con "multi-pile" caso mai la ritenga più opportuna...
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