« des first »

English translation: First class passengers

23:34 Oct 22, 2012

French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Tourism & Travel / Private jets and high end air travel

French term or phrase: « des first »

Au travers d’une infrastructure dédiée et d’avions spécialement équipés, la compagnie offrira des prestations « haut de gamme » pour la clientèle des « jets » privés et ***des first*** des compagnies majors, clientèle de plus en plus sensible à la dérive des coûts et des services de ce mode de transport, notamment dans le cadre de déplacements intercontinentaux.

I don't quite get the sense of what 'des first' means in the paragraph above. Is it referring to the more expensive airlines, perhaps?

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English translation:First class passengers

Explanation:
blogues.lapresse.ca/.../il-ne-faut-jamais-negl... - Translate this pageShare1 déc. 2011 – C'est que les passagers de la Première et de la classe Affaires, qui représentent en .... Cette nouvelle classe aux prestations simplifiées et à l'espace ... compagnie aérienne européenne à offrir ce produit, sous le nom de FFF (Full ... en leur chipant une bonne partie de leur loyale et lucrative clientèle ”First”.

www.ladocumentationfrancaise.fr/.../0000.p... - Translate this pageShareFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Annexe 5 Liste des cabinets de contrôle accrédités par le COFRAC pour les hôtels 5 étoiles. ..... les first class : correspondant aux cinq étoiles standard.

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Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 23:25

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5 +4

First class passengers

Rosa Paredes

4 +1

VIPs

John Holland

3 +1

top company executives

Barbara Veness

first class passengers

good4u

Discussion entries: 3

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First class passengers

Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 23:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish
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VIPs

Explanation:
"A person of great importance or influence, especially a dignitary who commands special treatment."
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/VIP

I.e. the "number one" people of "first importance" - the corporate high muckety-mucks :)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/high muckamuck

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Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-23 09:07:19 GMT)
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A note about register:

It seems to me that the use of the Franglais adds a slightly different register.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franglais

At least, it seems worth asking why the author(s) of the French didn't use the standard terms "passagers de première classe" if that's what was meant.

See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Première_classe
"Les passagers de première classe embarquent généralement les premiers, avant les passagers des autres classes, et disposent souvent de luxueux salons qui leur sont réservés."

Or more generally:
http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q="passagers de première c...

John Holland
France
Local time: 05:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

writeaway: or simply first class passengers

2 mins

-> Thank you, writeaway

disagree

Rosa Paredes: That would be something else. Please see Reference in discussion board. Cheers.

12 mins

-> Thank you for the feedback. I left a response in the discussion.

agree

philgoddard: Or senior executives, maybe.

55 mins

-> Thank you, philgoddard

agree

Sheila Wilson: The ones for whom first class scheduled flight isn't enough - they need to fly where and when they determine. Thanks for the new word: muckamuck :)

8 hrs

-> Thank you, Sheila :)

disagree

Tony M: If FR s/t uses the EN term, I feel sure it can only be referring to 'first-class passengers'; FR is not shy using VIP when that's what it really means; however, FR wouldn't usually take the EN word + give it an extrapolated meaning. Exotic jargon ;-)

9 hrs

-> Thank you, Tony M. I suppose one could likewise ask why the text doesn't read "passagers de première classe"....

neutral

Nikki Scott-Despaigne: As the original is specific in its use of "first", I suspect had the writer wished to use VIP, he/she would have done so.

10 hrs

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10 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

top company executives

Explanation:
It sounds as if they are talking about the type of client they cater for, rather than airlines. The sort who use private jets and don't want to rough it with no-frills airlines! You could use "leaders of industry" or a similar phrase to show that these are clients out of the very top drawer. Depending on how informal the tone is ("les first" could be light-hearted?) you could modify the phrase accordingly.

Barbara Veness
Local time: 05:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

12 days confidence:

first class passengers

Explanation:
First entry...first time lucky???
I would guess (yes I admit it!) that this refers to first class passengers ... The French/English "Marketing-speak" mixture makes it unpalatable...If howeveri the phrase were to be read "pour la clientèle des « jets » privés et des*** first*** des compagnies majors" it would seem to make more sense.

good4u
Local time: 05:25
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

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