Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Deutsch term or phrase:
am / an der
Englisch translation:
on [context]
Added to glossary by
FSI (X)
Apr 6, 2005 19:25
19 yrs ago
Deutsch term
am / an der
Non-PRO
Deutsch > Englisch
Kunst/Literatur
Linguistik
Ich habe hier ein Problem mit einer Präposition.
...Stehbundkragen (zum Beispiel AM Hemd oder AN der Jacke).
Übersetze ich das mit "on" a shirt or jacket?
...Stehbundkragen (zum Beispiel AM Hemd oder AN der Jacke).
Übersetze ich das mit "on" a shirt or jacket?
Proposed translations
(Englisch)
| 4 +4 | on |
FSI (X)
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| 4 +3 | of |
Britta Anion (X)
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| 4 +1 | not for points |
rangepost
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| 3 | use possessive? |
Armorel Young
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| 4 -5 | at |
trautlady
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Proposed translations
+4
3 Min.
Deutsch term (edited):
Pr�position
Selected
on
on the t-shirt
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
TransWolf
: Probably but we need a whole sentence
11 Min.
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| agree |
Maureen Millington-Brodie
23 Min.
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| agree |
Armorel Young
: Now that I've seen the detailed context you describe, I would definitely go for on (and scrap my alternative answer below)
13 Stunden
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| agree |
Ian M-H (X)
13 Stunden
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+3
4 Min.
Deutsch term (edited):
Pr�position
of
z.B.: the "collar of your shirt is dirty...
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
TransWolf
: Sorry any native speaker would say "your shirt collar is dirty" // OK the point here is the use of basic prepositions in English. // Sorry this perhaps just a bad example. IMO, it may be grammatically correct, but I find Germans overuse "of".
9 Min.
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right! or simply: your collar is dirty; but that is not the point here, is it? I just used that phrase for an example - the text doesn't have anything to do with dirty collars!
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| agree |
Trudy Peters
13 Min.
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thanks
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| agree |
rangepost
15 Min.
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thanks
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| agree |
Erik Macki
: In fact native speakers would use either "of" or "on." There is a slight semantic difference: cf. "that's a nice collar on that shirt" (collar considered separate from shirt) v. "check the tag inside the collar of your shirt" (collar and shirt as a unit).
3 Stunden
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Thanks a lot, Erik!
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15 Min.
Deutsch term (edited):
Pr�position
use possessive?
I don't know whether this would be appropriate to the context, but have you considered saying e.g. "the jacket's stand-up collar..."?
Otherwise I would favour "of" - although it would be helpful to see the full sentence.
Otherwise I would favour "of" - although it would be helpful to see the full sentence.
-5
26 Min.
Deutsch term (edited):
Pr�position
at
how about that?
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
TransWolf
: Oh yes, and you live in the US? You must be an excellent translater. Or do you want to use "at" so it rhymes?
9 Min.
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| disagree |
Colin Newberry
: Never
15 Min.
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| disagree |
Erik Macki
: ...
3 Stunden
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| neutral |
Lancashireman
: This certainly makes me wonder about several occasions when you have awarded ‘agree’ to answers supplied by other peers…
3 Stunden
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| disagree |
Francis Lee (X)
: me too, Andrew
13 Stunden
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| disagree |
Ian M-H (X)
: No, definitely not the preposition a native speaker would use here.
13 Stunden
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+1
46 Min.
Deutsch term (edited):
Pr�position
not for points
The collar OF your shirt(or jacket)is dirty.
There is a spot ON your collar.
The collar of the shirt is a button down style.
There is a spot ON your collar.
The collar of the shirt is a button down style.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Erik Macki
: Exactly; see my comment above under Britta's suggestion.
2 Stunden
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Thanks
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Discussion
Zuerst kommt das Feld, in dem der Begriff eingegeben wird -> hier: Stehbundkragen (banded collar), danach kommt das "semantische" Feld, in dem der Begriff disambiguiert wird, d.h. in diesem Fall habe ich im Deutschen eingetragen "an einem Hemd" (d.h. nicht an einem Pullover -> da gibt es zwar auch einen Stehbundkragen, aber der wird anders �bersetzt (turtleneck collar)). Soll ich jetzt einfach im Deutschen schreiben "AN einem Hemd" und im Englischen "OF a shirt"? Das Problem kommt nat�rlich beio anderen Eintr�gen f�r die Datenbank auch auf. Ist ziemlich wichtig, da sie f�r die Diplomarbeit erstellt wird. Danke f�r Eure Hilfe.