Dec 22, 2004 02:58
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comma usage

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Which of the following is correct, in particular, is the comma needed after New York?

a. My family stayed in Albany, New York and Atlanta, Georgia
b. My family stayed in Albany, New York, and Atlanta, Georgia
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Jun 17, 2005 15:47: NGK changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

Jun 17, 2005 15:47: NGK changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Other"

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Dec 22, 2004:
I should mention that this is AE.
Non-ProZ.com Dec 22, 2004:
Just for clarity, New York here is the state, i.e. there are only two cities.

Responses

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4 mins
Selected

My family stayed in Albany, New York, and Atlanta, Georgia

Preferably with a comma after the parenthetical "New York."
Peer comment(s):

agree JCEC : In American English
3 mins
agree bigedsenior : but not always. it is a matter of style
1 hr
agree humbird : If there is no comma after New York, it looks like there is a city called "New York and Atlanta" in Georgia.
2 hrs
agree Jirina Nevosadova
3 hrs
disagree Charlesp : simply, we don't put a comma inbetween two items
6 hrs
agree Joao Andre Madeira : New York is an extra clause and could be taken out. As such it should be between commas :)
7 hrs
agree NancyLynn
10 hrs
agree Ian M-H (X) : http://www.utexas.edu/visualguidelines/punctuation.html "Place a comma between the city and the state name, and another comma after the state name, unless ending a sentence."
12 hrs
agree Rutie Eckdish
15 hrs
agree Cilian O'Tuama
20 hrs
agree Refugio
2 days 54 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Norbert. I think the keyword in your answer is "parenthetical". Madjoao and Cilian also helped explain why this is not a "list" comma. Thanks to everyone else too."
5 hrs

My family stayed in Albany, New York and Atlanta, Georgia

There are two cities, and we don't use a comma between two items.
Albany, New York AND Atlanta, Georgia.

If you mean three cities, New York being New York City, add the word City, but still for clarity, leave out the comma.


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Note added at 6 hrs 30 mins (2004-12-22 09:28:44 GMT)
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based on the asker note \"Just for clarity, New York here is the state, i.e. there two cities only.\"
I am certain the extra comma would be wrong to include.


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Note added at 4 days (2004-12-26 08:25:51 GMT) Post-grading
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I still hold by my answer.
No comma is necessary, and when none is necessary adding one only risks confustion; simplicty is better and clearer.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Gabbutt : I have to agree - in a list there is not usually a comma before "and". Maybe the Americans think differently though?
1 hr
agree senin
3 hrs
neutral Ian M-H (X) : You're right: we don't normally use a comma between two items. Nor does one usually come before "and". But here the state names could be removed and US sources seem to be consistent in recommending a comma.
7 hrs
disagree Cilian O'Tuama : in Albany (New York) and Atlanta (Georgia) - here the commas serve the same function as the brackets and you DO need one after NY (otherwise the one before NY is unpaired)
15 hrs
disagree Refugio : Who is "we"??
1 day 19 hrs
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