derrogatory

Serbo-Croat translation: derogirajuca procedura

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English term or phrase:derrogatory
Serbo-Croat translation:derogirajuca procedura
Entered by: Dragomir Kovacevic

09:41 Sep 2, 2004
English to Serbo-Croat translations [PRO]
Law (general)
English term or phrase: derrogatory
u smislu derrogatory procedure - radi se o borbi protiv trgovine ljudima:

"IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES TO BRING A WITNESS INTO THE COURT AND TO SECURE THEIR TESTIMONY. DERROGATORY PROCEDURE IS EFFECTIVE AND WIDELY USED BUT SOMETIMES RATHER SLOW."
Bogdan Petrovic
Serbia
Local time: 22:45
derogirajuca procedura
Explanation:
procedura ispitivanja trazilaca (politickog ili slicnog) azila, kojom iste mogu ispitivati i drzavljani EU. Radi se o proceduri cuvanja integriteta licnosti svedoka koji cesto moze biti lako ucenjen, buduci cesto neregulisanog statusa u EU, ilegalno, sa sitnim prekrsajima. U uslovima saslusanja takvih svedoka garantuje im se bezbednost i sigurnost, daje im se garancija da za licni ev. postojeci prekrsaj nece biti gonjeni, jer su na sud pozvani u funckiji svedoka. Citiram: "Amnesty International urges EU member states to use the derogatory procedure codified under Protocol n 6 of the Amsterdam treaty (the so-called Aznar protocol), which allows examination of any asylum application lodged by an EU national, in a non-discriminatory fashion."
http://www.amnesty.hr/dokumenti/Dutch Presidency doc with co...
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Dragomir Kovacevic
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1derogirajuca procedura
Dragomir Kovacevic
4 +1mera zbog nepoštovanja suda
mita
5derogirajuca procedura
Dragomir Kovacevic
4ponižavajuæe
Ingrid Lovric
3 +1ponižavajuæi, omalovažavajuæi, uvredljiv, derogatoran
V&M Stanković
2pogrdno
Mihailolja


  

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pogrdno


Explanation:
pogrdna procedura.............?

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oh by the way \"derogatory\" with one \"r\" only.

Mihailolja
United Kingdom
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
ponižavajuæe


Explanation:
možda "ponižavajuæi postupak ili procedura"? To se uklapa u smisao teksta.

Ingrid Lovric
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
mera zbog nepoštovanja suda


Explanation:
Pošto je reè o tekškoæama u dovodjenju svedoka na sud, ovo bi bio prevod jer svojim neodazivanjem na poziv suda ne poštuju sud. U našem pravu ne postoji direktna paralela sa takvim postupkom.

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pardon, treba da stoji IZRICANJE mere zbog nepoštovanja suda

mita
Local time: 22:45
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agree  Natasa Grubor
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
derogatory procedure
derogirajuca procedura


Explanation:
procedura ispitivanja trazilaca (politickog ili slicnog) azila, kojom iste mogu ispitivati i drzavljani EU. Radi se o proceduri cuvanja integriteta licnosti svedoka koji cesto moze biti lako ucenjen, buduci cesto neregulisanog statusa u EU, ilegalno, sa sitnim prekrsajima. U uslovima saslusanja takvih svedoka garantuje im se bezbednost i sigurnost, daje im se garancija da za licni ev. postojeci prekrsaj nece biti gonjeni, jer su na sud pozvani u funckiji svedoka. Citiram: "Amnesty International urges EU member states to use the derogatory procedure codified under Protocol n 6 of the Amsterdam treaty (the so-called Aznar protocol), which allows examination of any asylum application lodged by an EU national, in a non-discriminatory fashion."
http://www.amnesty.hr/dokumenti/Dutch Presidency doc with co...


    Reference: http://www.amnesty.hr/dokumenti/Dutch%20Presidency%20doc%20w...
Dragomir Kovacevic
Italy
Local time: 22:45
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Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in CroatianCroatian
PRO pts in category: 16
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agree  Marija Vujosevic Caric
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
derogatory procedure
derogirajuca procedura


Explanation:
procedura ispitivanja trazilaca (politickog ili slicnog) azila, kojom iste mogu ispitivati i drzavljani EU. Radi se o proceduri cuvanja integriteta licnosti svedoka koji cesto moze biti lako ucenjen, buduci cesto neregulisanog statusa u EU, ilegalno, sa sitnim prekrsajima. U uslovima saslusanja takvih svedoka garantuje im se bezbednost i sigurnost, daje im se garancija da za licni ev. postojeci prekrsaj nece biti gonjeni, jer su na sud pozvani u funckiji svedoka. Citiram: "Amnesty International urges EU member states to use the derogatory procedure codified under Protocol n 6 of the Amsterdam treaty (the so-called Aznar protocol), which allows examination of any asylum application lodged by an EU national, in a non-discriminatory fashion."
http://www.amnesty.hr/dokumenti/Dutch Presidency doc with co...


    Reference: http://www.amnesty.hr/dokumenti/Dutch%20Presidency%20doc%20w...
Dragomir Kovacevic
Italy
Local time: 22:45
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derogatory
ponižavajuæi, omalovažavajuæi, uvredljiv, derogatoran


Explanation:
derogatory > ponižavajuæi (degrading, humiliating, mortifying).
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/english...

derogatory > škodljiv; uvredljiv; to give ~ information izneti (iznijeti) škodljive podatke; ~ remarks uvredljive primedbe (primjedbe)
(Morton Benson Dictionary)

derogatory > derogatoran, pogrdno
http://www.tkuzmic.com/dictionary/index.php?word=derogatory

Trebalo bi proveriti da li bi, u širem kontekstu, moglo da se prevede na pr. sa "procedure za spreèavanje ponižavanja, omalovažavanja... svedoka" - ovo je samo moja (dosta iskonstrusana) pretpostavka na osnovu datog konteksta, a i tematike uopšte.

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Evo još malo moguænosti, da biste lakše izabrali šta se uklapa u širi kontekst:

- derogatory > 1. ponužujuæi, ponižavajuæi, potcenjujuæi 2. štetan, škodljiv
- derogatory clause > derogatorna klauzula
- derogate (to) > 1. oduzeti, 2. ogranièiti dejstvo, 3. iæi na štetu (uštrb), 4. izbegavati
- derogation > derogacija, izbegavanje
- derogation of responsability > izbegavanje odgovornosti
(Vukiæeviæ B., Pravni reènik, izd. Privredni pregled, Beograd, 2001.)

derogatory > koji krnji, koji je na uštrb, koji škodi (ugledu), štetan (po ugled), koji umanjuje (zaslugu, ugled itd.)
(Ristiæ S. et al., Enciklopedijski englesko-sprskohrvtski reènik, izd. Prosveta, Beograd, 1973.)

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Evo još malo moguænosti, da biste lakše izabrali šta se uklapa u širi kontekst:

- derogatory > 1. ponužujuæi, ponižavajuæi, potcenjujuæi 2. štetan, škodljiv
- derogatory clause > derogatorna klauzula
- derogate (to) > 1. oduzeti, 2. ogranièiti dejstvo, 3. iæi na štetu (uštrb), 4. izbegavati
- derogation > derogacija, izbegavanje
- derogation of responsability > izbegavanje odgovornosti
(Vukiæeviæ B., Pravni reènik, izd. Privredni pregled, Beograd, 2001.)

derogatory > koji krnji, koji je na uštrb, koji škodi (ugledu), štetan (po ugled), koji umanjuje (zaslugu, ugled itd.)
(Ristiæ S. et al., Enciklopedijski englesko-sprskohrvtski reènik, izd. Prosveta, Beograd, 1973.)

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A sama reè \"derogatoran\", \"derogativan\"... postoji u srpskohrvatskom (pa se može primeniti i u prevodu) i ima sledeæe znaèenje:

- derogacija lat. (derogare — dokinuti; ustegnuti)
èin kojim se poništava, ukida, opoziva neki zakonski propis novim zakonskim propisom koji sadrži odredbu protivnu prijašnjem propisu, iako taj prijašnji propis ne spominje, niti ga izrièito ne opoziva; prot. abrogacija;
- derogativan, -vna, -vno — umanjujuæi, ukidajuæi;
- derogirati, -rogiram — staviti zakonski propis izvan kreposti protivnim propisom.
(Klaiæ, B., Veliki rjeènik stranih rijeèi, izd. Zora, Zagreb, 1968)

V&M Stanković
Serbia
Local time: 22:45
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Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tanja Abramovic (X): sa poslednjom primedbom - pise isto u Black's Law Dictionary, samo na engleskom.
3 days 14 hrs
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