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ogniqualvolta i rapporti lavorativi lo prevedano

12:46 Sep 9, 2023
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
Italian term or phrase: ogniqualvolta i rapporti lavorativi lo prevedano
Legal separation (sentenza di separazione - assegni familiari)

Context:

Fermo restando che, ogniqualvolta i rapporti lavorativi del Sig. XY li prevedano, gli assegni familiari imputabili alla sua attività lavorativa andranno direttamente percepiti dalla madre del minore
dan_lupari
Italy


Summary of answers provided
4whenever Mr. XY's employment relationships provide for them
Tom in London
4as and when covered by employment arrangements
Adrian MM.
4if Mr XY's employment entitles him to dependents' benefit
philgoddard
4whenever Mr. XY's employment contract provides therefor
Paul O'Brien


  

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whenever Mr. XY's employment relationships provide for them


Explanation:
obv

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:13
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 343

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: I don't think it's 'obv' at all.
39 mins
  -> I expected this.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
as and when covered by employment arrangements


Explanation:
Employment 'relationships' may be a textbook term but is riskily ambiguous for 'dangerous liaisons' at work.

Otherwise, English or Anglo-Irish legal drafting balance suggests using a passive construction.

BTW, it's judicial - rather than legal vs. illegal - separation.

Example sentence(s):
  • Employment Arrangement means any employment agreement or individual severance agreement by and between the Company and the Participant, or severance plan ...
  • circumstances, in individual employment agreement ... providing for such matters as are contemplated by or necessary for giving full effect

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian-to-english/marketing-marke...
    Reference: http://acuitylaw.com/in-the-course-of-employment/
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 342
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Elisa Vitale
4 days
disagree  philgoddard: It's nothing to do with 'employment arrangements'. It's his legal entitlement.
9 days
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
if Mr XY's employment entitles him to dependents' benefit


Explanation:
... the payments will be made direct to the children's mother.

I think the previous answers are too literal - to me, 'employment relationships' and 'working relations' imply how well he gets on with his boss and fellow workers.

'Assegni familiari' are benefits paid to a worker for their non-working spouse and children:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assegni_familiari

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Note added at 6 hrs (2023-09-09 19:33:14 GMT)
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No, not 'labour relations', for the reason I mentioned. 'Rapporti' means situation or circumstances.

philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 341
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks. I had the same doubt here.

Asker: I also found "labour relations". Do you think that could fit ?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  martini
9 mins
neutral  Adrian MM.: it's dependants as a noun rather than dependent as an adjective - the kind of point you are apt to pick up on.
14 mins
  -> I agree.
disagree  Paul O'Brien: Don't know what you mean by "employment". Sounds stodgy. I used "employment contract".
8 days
  -> I'm surprised you don't know, since you've used it in your own answer. Employment is another word for job.
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2 days 7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
whenever Mr. XY's employment contract provides therefor


Explanation:
...

Paul O'Brien
Argentina
Local time: 14:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Elisa Vitale
1 day 21 hrs
disagree  philgoddard: It's not his contract, it's the law. Benefits are paid by the government, not the employer.
6 days
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