Immobilisation du véhicule

English translation: vehicle downtime

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French term or phrase:	Immobilisation du véhicule (pour réparation)
English translation:	vehicle downtime
Entered by:	Lorraine Artur de La Villarmois

14:04 Jun 9, 2017

French to English translations [PRO]
Insurance / Insurance policy

French term or phrase: Immobilisation du véhicule

[Review of a translation from FR to ENG (UK)]

« Immobilisation du Véhicule » : durée nécessaire à un garagiste pour réparer un Véhicule à la suite d’un évènement garanti et qui commence au moment où le Véhicule est déposé dans le garage et s’achève à la fin des travaux.

Proposed translation : "Loss of Use of the Vehicule"

Alternative translation (eur-lex) : Immobilization of the Vehicule

Lorraine Artur de La Villarmois KudoZ activity Questions: 8 (1 open) (2 without valid answers) Answers: 1 Vietnam
Local time: 18:58

vehicle downtime

Explanation:
Insurance companies (especially those providing cover for the road transport sector) offer "downtime insurance" to cover costs derived from the time a vehicle spends stuck in a garage being repaired.

See for example:
https://www.progressivecommercial.com/coverages/rental-reimb...
Learn how Progressive's rental reimbursement with downtime insurance for trucks ... with Downtime can help get you back on the road in a rental vehicle or help

https://www.gtins.com.au/products_services/downtimebusiness-...
Business Interruption (Downtime) Insurance is an extension available to GT Insurance Commercial Motor Vehicle Insurance Policy holders, offering the insured ...

Selected response from:

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 07:58

Grading comment

Thanks for your answer, and thanks a lot for understanding that, though French, my English is good enough to challenge a translation provided by an English native who, as every English or non-English native, is a human being and therefore might make a mistake
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +3

vehicle downtime

Jennifer Levey

4 +1

unavailability of vehicle

Francois Boye

4 +1

non-availability of vehicle

AllegroTrans

4 -1

Immobilization of the Vehicle

Daryo

Unavailability of the vehicle

Henrietta King

3 -2

vehicle undergoing repair

Nikki Scott-Despaigne

Summary of reference entries provided

seems to be for lorries (poids-lourd)

writeaway

Answers

22 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

unavailability of vehicle

Explanation:
https://www.saferidecarrental.com/sp_faq/vehicle-breakdowns-...

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 07:58
Native speaker of:

French

27 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

non-availability of vehicle

Explanation:
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 130

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

vehicle downtime

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 07:58
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

Grading comment

10 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

vehicle undergoing repair

Explanation:
Rather than sticking to the French perception of this one, it is more likely that an EN contract would describe why the vehicle is out of action.

https://www.theaa.com/insurance/pdf/car-insurance-policy-boo...

"Immobilisation" is not a good solution in UK English in insurance contexts. It is used in situations where there is a breach of the law : https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachm...

"Immobilisation is a new power available to VOSA to help to enforce prohibitions issued against the further use of vehicles, when infringements or regulation breaches committed by the driver have been discovered. VOSA will be able to lock a device to the vehicle to stop it from being driven.
Immobilisation was introduced by an amendment to the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 contained in the Road Safety Act 2006. This means that any vehicle prohibited with immediate effect for any of the following reasons could be subject to Immobilisation;

 Drivers’ hours regulation breaches
 Roadworthiness issues
 Overloading
 Non-payment of a financial deposit requirement

This measure has been introduced to address the problem of non-compliance with immediate prohibitions, namely a prohibited vehicle being driven off unlawfully while still under prohibition, and to counter fears that the new prohibitions associated with the non-payment of deposit requirements may lead to an increased likelihood of such non-compliance. "

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 13:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 113

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks all for your comments and answers. In the French version, the term "Immobilisation du Véhicule" is defined as the time needed to repair the Vehicle further to the occurence of a guaranteed loss event, from the moment the Vehicle is parked in a garage and until the end of works on the Vehicle.

1 day 6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Immobilization of the Vehicle

Explanation:
Although there is a possible confusion with "Immobilization" of a vehicle as the result of clamping, "Immobilization of the Vehicle" is used in motor insurance contracts in the meaning as defined in this ST:

« Immobilisation du Véhicule » : durée nécessaire à un garagiste pour réparer un Véhicule à la suite d’un évènement garanti et qui commence au moment où le Véhicule est déposé dans le garage et s’achève à la fin des travaux.

Given that this is part of a "definition of the meaning of this this term for the purpose of this contract" any other meaning, even if more usual (like immobilisation by clamping) is totally irrelevant - as absolutely no confusion is possible!

see:

C/ Vehicle assistance
In case of accident or mechanical breakdown that makes the vehicle un-driveable :

 Road/towing assistance. Road assistance on the spot or towing assistance towards the garage of the brand carrier the closest to the happening or in default towards the closest garage able to repair. The assistance service takes over the road or towing charges up to 153 €.

 Waiting for repair. In case of vehicle immobilization lower than 24h in France or 72 h abroad, if the insured person wishes to wait for the vehicle repairs on the spot, are taking into account : 1 night of hotel in France or 3 nights of hotel abroad, up to 77 € per beneficiary.

 Back home. In case of immobilization of the vehicle higher than 24h in France or 72h abroad, organizing and assuming the costs of going back home for the beneficiaries.

 Repaired vehicle recovery to the pick up station.

 Spare parts sent abroad. Forwarding spare parts non available on the spot and compulsory for the vehicle
repair under the restriction of local regulation rules and means of transport available.

 Vehicle repatriation. Abroad, when the vehicle repairs cannot be made within a period of 5 days and need more than 5 hours of labour, planning and assuming the cost of carrying the non travelling vehicle towards the regular garage.

Exclusions : are excluded from the coverage, and cannot be part of a compensation whatever is the reason :
- breakdown and fuel error
- the tyres puncture
- the loss, robbery, forgetting or breaking the keys excepting breaking the keys inside the security ignition system
- problems and air conditioning breakdowns
- coachbuilding damages that do not involve a vehicule immobilization
- the consequences of a vehicle immobilization in order to make the maintenance services
- the items and personal effects left in the vehicle
- The repair costs of the vehicle, spare parts
- Carried pets
- the customs and keeping charges except the ones that were previously allowed by the assistance service

http://www.trois-soleils.com/sites/default/files/pdf/assista...

Alamo Rental Cars: one of the things you need to know
01 January 2014, 15:26
When you rent a car from Alamo USA, keep in mind that if the vehicle is slightly damaged (scrapes) by a fully responsible and well-insured third party, and if you report the incident to Alamo, they will charge you for the supposed immobilization of the vehicle during the supposed repairs. This is stated in the middle of the four page-long fine print that you probably never read. I didn't, after a 13 hours flight. Being honest is very costly.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g1-i12567-k7074627-A...

https://www.europcar.co.uk/files/live/sites/Europcar/files/C...

etc

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Immobilised Plant

The cover provided by this Section of Your Portfolio extends to include the payment of necessary costs incurred in the recovery of plant which may become immobilised or immovable during normal operations other than as a result of its own explosion mechanical or electrical breakdown failure breakage or derangement provided that Our total liability shall not exceed £25,000 in respect of one event.

Combined Haulage Insurance
Version 7 Jan 2010

https://www.towergateinsurance.co.uk/media/61667/pers-motor-...

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« Immobilisation du Véhicule » : durée nécessaire à un garagiste pour réparer un Véhicule à la suite d’un évènement garanti et qui commence au moment où le Véhicule est déposé dans le garage et s’achève à la fin des travaux.

is a standardised "definition of term" that can be found in all sorts of insurance contracts:

Service Garantie Crevaison
https://www.euromaster.fr/sites/default/files/2017-01/CGV-Ga...

Le présent Contrat JEUNE CONDUCTEUR ...
https://www.jeune-conducteur-assur.com/media/upload/PDF/jeun...

NOTICE D’INFORMATION Du Contrat OUICAR–N°5004892
http://doczz.fr/doc/3553215

http://docplayer.fr/41214636-Conditions-generales-de-vente-o...

there is no reason to assume that this "definition of term" is in any way specific / adapted to any particular kind of vehicle.

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Note added at 1 day21 hrs (2017-06-11 11:34:06 GMT)
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... that can be found verbatim in all sorts of insurance contracts

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:58
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 39

Notes to answerer

Asker: Tanks @Robin Levey. Comforting comment!!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

writeaway: yes and no and as I suggested the other day under another answer. but then I saw this is definitely for lorries and downtime is the correct jargon in English.

25 mins

-> this is a term defined as "vehicle NOT MOVING while in garage for repairs" - nothing more, not as "vehicle NOT BRINGING MONEY" + "downtime" can include a huge range of all kind of other reasons for "not making money", all outside of a garage

agree

Tony M: I tend to agree — though note that your first 4 examples come from very poorly-translated websites.

45 mins

-> I always try to check on original texts, not translations, like this guy having troubles in USA with this rental company. Thanks!

disagree

Jennifer Levey: Asker is revising the contract and (very sensibly!) making sure the en translation of the fr terms is correct in the embedded glossary before propagating the selected en term through the entire contract. :)

1 day 3 hrs

-> your own ref. "Business Interruption (Downtime) Insurance" links "downtime" with "Business Interruption" which would be a patent nonsense if the insurance is not for a commercial vehicle AS OFTEN IT WON'T BE (noticed this bit: Contrat JEUNE CONDUCTEUR??)

2333 days confidence:

Unavailability of the vehicle

Explanation:
Just offering my two cents. This would cover both private and commercial vehicles.

Henrietta King
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:58
Native speaker of:

English

Reference comments

1 hr

Reference: seems to be for lorries (poids-lourd)

Reference information:
http://www.assureclair.fr/media/blfa_files/CG-Assistance-PL-...

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Context:

IL A ETE PREALABLEMENT EXPOSE CE QUI SUIT :

(A) Le Souscripteur a souhaité pouvoir faire bénéficier aux Véhicules de sa flotte de garanties d’assistance aux véhicules et à ses Collaborateurs de garanties d’assistance aux personnes lorsqu’ils se déplacent avec les Véhicules.
...
Article 1 | Définitions
Dans le présent Contrat, les mots ou expressions commençant par une
majuscule ont la signification qui suit :
...
« Immobilisation du Véhicule » : durée nécessaire à un garagiste pour
réparer un Véhicule à la suite d’un évènement garanti et qui commence au moment où le Véhicule est déposé dans le garage et s’achève à la fin des travaux.
http://www.assureclair.fr/media/blfa_files/CG-Assistance-PL-...

writeaway
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 35

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