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Condition suspensive

07:45 Oct 28, 2016
This question was closed without grading. Reason: Errant question

French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Articles of Association
French term or phrase: Condition suspensive
I realise this has been asked and answered before. My question really relates to the syntax of a paragraph containing this expression. However, maybe there is an alternative for "condition suspensive" which would clarify things.

"ARTICLE 25 - CAPITAUX PROPRES INFERIEURS A LA MOITIE DU CAPITAL SOCIAL
...
La réduction du capital à un montant inférieur au minimum légal ne peut être décidée que sous la condition suspensive d'une augmentation de capital destinée à amener celui-ci au moins à ce montant minimum"

"ARTICLE 25 – EQUITY BELOW HALF THE SHARE CAPITAL
A resolution to reduce the capital to an amount below the legal minimum shall only be passed on the condition precedent of an increase in capital intended to increase this to the legal minimum."

I don't like the flow of my paragraph and would be delighted if someone told me I had got it all wrong because...
Mr.Q
Netherlands
Local time: 03:56


Summary of answers provided
4(Anglo-Am) Condition precedent; (Scots law) Suspensive condition
Kim Kardasho (X)
3 +1condition precedent
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Summary of reference entries provided
Page one for condition suspensive in Kudoz glossary
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48 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(Anglo-Am) Condition precedent; (Scots law) Suspensive condition


Explanation:
cf. condition subsequent vs. (Scots) resolutive condition.

The asker's profile suggests that he may be after a Scots law spin - not really spelled out in any KudoZ glossary entry.

The question was, in these circumstances, rightly posted.


    Reference: http://www.proz.com/?sp=asearch&term=Condition%20suspensive&...
Kim Kardasho (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:56
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neutral  writeaway: asker wanted proofreading of the entire paragraph. And the answer of the term posted is already in the glossary more than once. Scotland hin, Scotland her.....
5 mins
  -> 1. Proofreading does not include editing, checking or review. 2. The entire paragraph is another matter 3. the Scottish variation of this term is nowhere flagged in any glossary entry & 4. it's disrespectful to write off Scotland as a legal jurisdiction.
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
condition precedent


Explanation:
Suggested rendering, with and without the term "condition precedent" :

Reducing the capital to an amount lower than the statutory minimum is conditional upon the capital being increased (having being increased : in order to bring out the fact that it must precede) to an amount at least equal to the minimum amount.

Subject to the condition precedent that the capital be increased to an amount that is at least equal to the statutory minimum, the capital may be reduced to an amount lower than the statutory minimum.


Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 03:56
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PRO pts in category: 451

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Adam Warren: Leave the Scots law out of this. "Condition precedent" has far wider currency.
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Reference comments


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Reference: Page one for condition suspensive in Kudoz glossary

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Term translation Poster | answerer Source
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> Law: Contract(s)
> "Real Estate" ... je ne pourrai me prévaloir de la condition suspensive de son obtention rely upon the condition precedent Peter Field | Nikki Scott-Despaigne KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Bus/Financial
> Finance (general)
> "Sale of businesses" conditions suspensives d'usage The usual conditions precedent Sylvia Smith | Paula McMullan KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Law: Contract(s)
> "grants" levée de conditions suspensives fulfilment/satisfaction OR waiver OR fulfilment or waiver of conditions precedent Sarah Walls | Nikki Scott-Despaigne KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Law: Contract(s) condition supensive suspensive condition Ghyslaine LE NAGARD | Connor KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Real Estate condition suspensive Two in one (no argument) Laetitia Planquois | xxxBourth KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents notification préalable et suspensive prior notice as a suspensive condition/condition precedent Mary Lalevee | William Stein KudoZ
Click for term details French to English > Law: Contract(s)
> "estate contract" condition suspensive condition precedent Catherine Dauvergne-Newman | hirselina KudoZ
Click for term details French to English > Law: Contract(s)
> "estate contract" condition suspensive condition precedent Catherine Dauvergne-Newman | GILOU KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Finance (general) condition suspensive suspensive condition (condition precedent) patfie | Elena Petelos KudoZ
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Law: Contract(s)
> "real estate/law" conditions suspensives Suspensive clauses clochette | Florence Evans KudoZ
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> "lease of equipment" condition suspensive condition precedent Parrot | Marian Greenfield KudoZ
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> Law (general) conditions suspensive suspensive conditions Ritu Bhanot Glossary
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> Law (general) condition suspensive suspensive condition Ritu Bhanot Glossary
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> Real Estate conditions (clauses) suspensives conditions precedent David Ronis | Marian Greenfield KudoZ
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> Law (general) condition suspensive condition precedent Emilie Laferrière Glossary
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Real Estate conditions suspensives conditions precedent danbull | Sophie Jeangeorges KOG
Click for term details French to English Bus/Financial
> Finance (general)
> "Sale of businesses" conditions suspensives d'usage The usual conditions precedent Sylvia Smith KOG
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Real Estate condition suspensive Two in one (no argument) Laetitia Planquois KOG
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents notification préalable et suspensive prior notice as a suspensive condition/condition precedent Mary Lalevee | William Stein KOG
Click for term details French to English > Law: Contract(s)
> "estate contract" condition suspensive condition precedent Catherine Dauvergne-Newman KOG
Click for term details French to English > Law: Contract(s)
> "estate contract" condition suspensive condition precedent Catherine Dauvergne-Newman KOG
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> "lease of equipment" condition suspensive condition precedent Parrot | Marian Greenfield KOG
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Finance (general) condition suspensive suspensive condition (condition precedent) patfie | Elena Petelos KOG
Click for term details French to English Law/Patents
> Law: Contract(s)
> "grants" levée de conditions suspensives fulfilment/satisfaction OR waiver OR fulfilment or waiver of conditions precedent Sarah Walls | Nikki Scott-Despaigne KOG
Click for term details French to English Bus/Financial; Law/Patents
> Law: Contract(s) condition suspensive condition precedent Catherine Dauvergne-Newman | Patipesa Wikiwords

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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 617

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Kim Kardasho (X): the Scots law variations are not borne out at all for the asker.//please - it is not enough to just produce long lists of ambling entries.
21 mins
  -> what are you on about now?? anyway, question was closed before you popped up and your answer is the same as all theses entries. What about the BWI? Are you ignoring them? /ambling refs or twisted convoluted answers- don't see the difference
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