Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

логика зарождения теорий

English translation:

logic of the conception of theories

Added to glossary by Yuliia Behen (nee Herus)
Jun 11, 2016 21:53
7 yrs ago
Russian term

логика зарождения теорий

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I need to put it in the way it sounds in the English-speaking scientific discourse.
Thank you everybody!

Discussion

Rachel Douglas Jun 24, 2016:
conception Yes, Tatiana, of course "conception" can mean зарождение - origination, originating. What I was trying to say is that if one encounters "the conception of theories," not to mention "the logic of the conception of theories," the immediate response is to understand it as "понятие о теориях", not as having to do with origination. Maybe, just maybe, the context would guide the reader in the right direction, but the asker provided hardly any context, so we don't know. I believe that's why the other three suggestions (mine, Lilian's, and Katerina's) all correctly made "origin" explicit, because the asker gave no indication that their context was going to help the reader understand it correctly.
Tatiana Grehan Jun 24, 2016:
To Rachel:

Rachel, thank you for the comment. Your opinion is of great value since you are a native speaker. The examples in the link are not the best ones, I agree. As for the actual meaning, "conception" (according to Merriam-Webster) can refer to "the originating of something in the mind". Surely the reader will understand from the context, that in this case "conception" means "originating", that is "зарождение", and not "понятие".

Proposed translations

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logic of the conception of theories

Peer comment(s):

agree Ravindra Godbole
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agree Jack Doughty
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disagree Rachel Douglas : Normally I wouldn't enter such a strong dissent to an already chosen answer, but it seems important to point out that "conception of theories" will be understood as "понятие" not "зарождение". And that's what it means in the examples listed via the link.
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the logic of how scientific theories, or theories, arise, origination of theories

I would describe it rather than use a term.
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validity of a theory origins

validity is a property of a logical system
together with completeness, soundness, and consistency

Validity of a theory origins.
Validity is the only possible attribute of origins, it makes a lot of sense, too.
One can validate the origins of pretty much anything.

but can you prove the logics of origins?
Peer comment(s):

agree Denis Zabelin
6 hrs
Thank you!
neutral Rachel Douglas : I'm not sure about what "логика" means here, but I'm quite sure that "of a theory origins" is not English.
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the origins of theories , you're right! It's blurred line here between what may and may not be said or written.
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how theories originate

This will be an option if by "логика" your original means not so much "logic," which is rather narrower in English than "логика" is in Russian, as something like "lawful process." In other words, "логика" can mean also "внутренняя закономерность, присущая чему-нибудь" or "ход рассуждений" - ideas which may or not be well expressed by "logic" in English, depending on the context. Sometimes, as in my proposal, it might simply be omitted, if it only means the "way" or "order" in which the origination occurs.

It would be easier to judge, if you provided more context.
Peer comment(s):

agree katerina turevich
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