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Glossary entry

Slovak term or phrase:

Napĺňať znaky trestnej činnosti

English translation:

Constitute the elements of a crime

Added to glossary by Nicholas Miller
Nov 16, 2015 15:03
8 yrs ago
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Slovak term

Napĺňať znaky trestnej činnosti

Slovak to English Law/Patents Law (general)
Cestovanie s falošnými dokladmi napĺňa znaky trestnej činnosti.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Constitute the elements of a crime
3 +2 amount to a crime
4 satisfy the elements of an offence/crime
Change log

Nov 18, 2015 22:48: Nicholas Miller Created KOG entry

Discussion

Stuart Hoskins Nov 18, 2015:
Mr Gateway The criminal/civil law point you raise is interesting. I actually have no beef with (and use) “(constituent) elements”. What we are lacking here is context – it might be (but, as it turns out, evidently isn’t) one of those “odd Czecho-Slovak” sentences where the author refuses to call a spade a spade, so it sounds overly formal if translated literally.
On a base level, if it’s a report for, say, the Commission, I’d probably call their bluff and go for “amounts to/is a crime”. In a piece of legislation or a more complex judicial text, I’d likely plump for the elements.
Pavel Slama Nov 18, 2015:
perhaps “statutory features”?
Pavel Slama Nov 18, 2015:
Having said that, using “elements” sucks, ’cause those are traditionally, in common law, actus reus and mens rea (subjektivní a objektivní stránka), but I couldn’t find a better word.
Pavel Slama Nov 18, 2015:
Mr Hoskins As much as I appreciate a daring solution, I find this of great theoretical interest, not merely a matter of register.

The odd Czechoslovak wording has to do with the “formal conception” of criminal law, which is quite the antithesis of common law approach.

(..that’s why search yields few results from common law jurisdictions.)

Also see „čin jinak trestný“, which is sorta-like “would amount to crime”, but that is the next logical step.

Proposed translations

+1
1 hr
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Constitute the elements of a crime

Or
"Constitute the elements of the crime of ... (travelling with false documents)"

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Note added at 1 day17 hrs (2015-11-18 08:39:56 GMT)
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There are a lot of examples on the web:
http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/4385/what-constitutes-the...
http://global.oup.com/us/companion.websites/9780199899388/do...
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Elements of a Cri...
Peer comment(s):
agree Juro Sebestyen, A.B.I.E.S. s.r.o.
5 hrs
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11 mins

satisfy the elements of an offence/crime

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+2
4 hrs

amount to a crime

“ak takéto porušenie naplní znaky skutkovej podstaty trestného činu podľa práva vykonávajúceho štátu”
“if that breach amounts to a criminal offence under the law of the executing State”
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN-SK/TXT/?qid=144770...

“carrying the travel documents amounts to a crime”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/sudan-summons-u-s-amba...


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Note added at 1 day18 hrs (2015-11-18 09:14:49 GMT)
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Googling indicates that UK government websites frequently allude to “amount(s) to a crime”, whereas (without wishing to break KudoZ rules) other suggestions do not feature at all
(based on a search for "amounts to a crime " site:gov.uk)
If the original text is specifically part of a law (http://www.zakonypreludi.sk/ suggests not), then other solutions could quite obviously come into play.
Peer comment(s):
agree Juro Sebestyen, A.B.I.E.S. s.r.o.
3 hrs
Thanks, Juro.
agree Dušan Ján Hlísta
14 hrs
Thanks, Duso.
agree Martina De Coster Hunova
18 hrs
Thanks, Martina.
disagree Nicholas Miller : It seems rather colloquial or informal, despite the one example of a euro-text. The other is from a newspaper
1 day 13 hrs
Thanks for your input, Nicholas. In the absence of context, we could well be talking about an informational document/journalistic piece here, where man-on-the-street clarity is of the essence. As noted, I have covered the legalese base, too.
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