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Jun 13, 2015 15:21
8 yrs ago
Spanish term

robo critico

Spanish to English Other Sports / Fitness / Recreation football terminology
El software que se utiliza en esta competición permite obtener directamente el tracking de todos los jugadores y del balón, por lo que resulta perfecto para evaluar SIDANE. Así mismo, el nivel de sofisticación de los jugadores virtuales es tan elevado que se comportan prácticamente como jugadores reales. En este trabajo se han utilizado los datos de la final de la RoboCup 2012 entre los equipos Helios (Japón) y WrightEagle (China).
La figura 6 muestra el número de situaciones detectadas y evaluadas por SIDANE de manera automática. En concreto, estas situaciones son las siguientes: pase al área, robo crítico, pase de la muerte, pase largo y, finalmente, disparo a puerta. En este punto, es importante aclarar que la situación de robo crítico es la que propicia un contraataque por parte del equipo rival. En otras palabras, es una situación a evitar por parte del equipo que tiene la posesión del balón.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 loss of possession in a dangerous position
4 +1 dispossession triggering a counter-attack
3 pivotal steal

Proposed translations

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loss of possession in a dangerous position

There's no nice, neat short term for this, not in UK football terminology anyway, or not that I know of.

"loss of possession leading to a counter attack" could be another option.

Used fairly widely, see link below:
Reference:

https://www.google.es/search?q=%22possession+in+a+dangerous+position%22&rlz=1I7ADSA_es&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gfe_rd=cr&ei=8kx8VciFF

Peer comment(s):
agree Jacob Z. (X) : I more or less agree, I mostly watch football in Spanish where there is lots of talk of "peligro" during a fast counterattack, so maybe "dangerous loss of ball"? (I just changed this, before I said "steal" but I think you're right about that now...).
6 mins
Good point. "steal" is still a bit basketball-y for my liking but terminology's changing all the time. Look at "assist", for example. I suppose for stat purposes, "steal" would be OK.
agree Scott Hendry Jackson : works for me!
5 hrs
agree Neil Ashby : Please, "steal" No! Why does US terminology from other sports have to become acceptable in football? This answer does assume, of course, that this occurs in a dangerous position, not mentioned in the source.
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Ok thanks, a tricky one this"
5 mins

pivotal steal

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Emily Markert - 2007-08 Women's Basketball ... 4 ... scored eight points, pulled down five boards and blocked a shot vs. ... attempt ... scored five points, grabbed three boards and had a pivotal steal at home against SEMO ... against Wisconsin, ...

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25 ene. 2015 - Final, 1, 2, 3, 4, Tot ... and a pivotal steal, and New Orleans won its third straight game, 109-106 over the Dallas Mavericks on Sunday night.

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I think this is what they call the play but nit sure ...

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not

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I think in soccer they talk about "robbing the ball" so maybe something with that

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will leave it up to the soccer buffs
Peer comment(s):
neutral James Calder : Hmm, I think this is basketball-specific, David. I'm not sure I'd want to hear soccer commentators and pundits talking about "pivotal steals". Fair enough, in answer to your reply.
7 mins
probably but just thought I would throw it in ... not really much of a fan of either soccer or basketball but thought it might be ok
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14 hrs

dispossession triggering a counter-attack

You need to get the sense of 'robo' - someone steals the ball/tackles you/takes it away, it's not just lost in a passive way - and the standard term for this is to dispossess. It's 'critico' if it it sets up a counter-attack, and I think 'trigger' conveys the necessary sense of speed and urgency.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/a...

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http://soccer.soccerhelp.com/tag/soccer-dispossess/

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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IGy_QNv-J4oC&pg=PT122&lp...

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Update: 'robo criticó' = crucial dispossession

As the text explains that this is a dispossession setting up a counter-attack, it complicates things to include it in the term itself as I suggested above. I think 'crucial' works very well for 'crítico'.

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crítico not criticó

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And here's an example - The Walcott being praised for his crucial dispossession of Malouda:

http://www.arse2mouse.com/post/2497345663
Peer comment(s):
agree Neil Ashby : Maybe "setting-up / launching" a counterattack (or "break") rather than "triggering", but I like the idea; "robo" and the act are not passive but the standard active verb is "tackle" not dispossess//So if I tackle the opposition keeper, it's defensive?
3 hrs
Thanks, Neil. Well, you can dispossess without tackling, e.g. intercepting or nicking it off someone's toes. A tackle is purely defensive: dispossession implies gaining of the ball for creative purposes.//It's probably a foul! Dispossess=more than tackle
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