Профессиональная деформация личности

English translation: occupational psychosis

16:20 May 14, 2015
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Psychology
Russian term or phrase: Профессиональная деформация личности
Found "professional deformation of the personality" but only as title of a book translated from Russian.

«Он же до того как податься в политику, был детективом, так ведь?» спросил Дэйвид. Он никогда не интересовался политикой и выборами, но этот факт каким-то образом закрепился у него в памяти.
«Да, работал как раз по организованной преступности. Я всегда думал, что у него просто... как это называется, когда у людей едет крыша из-за работы?»
***«Профессиональная деформация личности,»*** подсказал Сильвермен.
«Вот, точно. Если всю жизнь каждый день приходится общаться с убийцами и насильниками, кажется весь мир состоит только из таких людей. Мол, каждый из нас потенциальный убийца и насильник, только не всем подвернулась возможность показать себя во всей красе...
Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:33
English translation:occupational psychosis
Explanation:
It's a term thunk up by John Dewey. Only am not sure if it's still widely used, but when it was used, it was frequently described as the equivalent of French "deformation professionelle". "Occupational distortion" also appears in this context, although that could be confused with ergonomic problems, strain on the spine, etc.
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Rachel Douglas
United States
Local time: 14:33
Grading comment
With the help of a client who is a psychologist, I settled on "occupational personality disorder", and I think yours was the closest. Thank you!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4occupational psychosis
Rachel Douglas
4 +1Déformation Professionnelle
Boris Kochetkov
3 +1vocational warping of the personality
Donald Jacobson
4personality change caused by profession/ occupation
Elena Ow-Wing
3personality deterioration
Katerina O.
2 -1profession-based personality formation
Nadezhda Golubeva


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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
profession-based personality formation


Explanation:
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Nadezhda Golubeva
Russian Federation
Local time: 21:33
Native speaker of: Russian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  The Misha: Unfortunately, there's two problems w. this: it's DEformation, which carries a totally different meaning; 2) the whole thing is not strictly speaking in English.
5 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
vocational warping of the personality


Explanation:
. My take on this

Donald Jacobson
United States
Local time: 13:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 100

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Susan Welsh: I think this is fine, but my sense is that the phrase is a joke, not a real thing (crime novel?).
4 mins
  -> I agree. Thanks, Susan. That's why I chose warping. Because it is totally nontechnical
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Déformation Professionnelle


Explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Déformation_professionnelle
http://humanisticsystems.com/2013/12/12/deformation-professi...

Boris Kochetkov
Russian Federation
Local time: 21:33
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Elena Ow-Wing: This is it, if the French phrase is ok in this context.
2 hrs
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
occupational psychosis


Explanation:
It's a term thunk up by John Dewey. Only am not sure if it's still widely used, but when it was used, it was frequently described as the equivalent of French "deformation professionelle". "Occupational distortion" also appears in this context, although that could be confused with ergonomic problems, strain on the spine, etc.

Rachel Douglas
United States
Local time: 14:33
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 60
Grading comment
With the help of a client who is a psychologist, I settled on "occupational personality disorder", and I think yours was the closest. Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  boostrer: psychosis is related to organic disorders, i.e., can be diagnosed based on lab tests/MRI, etc. This is not the case in this text. // I see; maybe, you are right.
2 hrs
  -> Please look up "occupational psychosis." It is not the same use of the word as in psychiatry. "Occupational psychosis" is a technical term, but becuase it reminds people of the other, it might work pretty well in this ironical context.

agree  The Misha: I doesn't matter if it's organic, inorganic or even cannibalistic for that matter.This seems to be some work of fiction.What matters is that it sound well,and this does.I like the French piece too,but that would call for a note,and who really needs that?
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, Misha.

agree  Judith Hehir: This seems about right to me, Rachel.
7 hrs
  -> Thanks, Judi!

agree  Oleksiy Markunin
23 hrs
  -> Thanks, Oleksiy.

agree  cyhul
3 days 15 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
personality change caused by profession/ occupation


Explanation:
If the French term doesn't fit in here, maybe a descriptive translation will do.

Elena Ow-Wing
United States
Local time: 11:33
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 8
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
personality deterioration


Explanation:
Though this may be too strong for the context. For 'профессиональная' I'd use 'occupational' as in 'occupational illness'.

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-05-15 00:08:49 GMT)
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A milder option: personality disorder.

Katerina O.
Russian Federation
Works in field
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Susan Welsh: Be careful with "personality disorder," which covers specific DSM diagnoses.
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