Mar 17, 2015 18:15
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French term
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en eux-mêmes
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I am putting this under 'general' but think it might get moved. Anyhow, this is driving me mad. It is in a patent and keeps cropping up and I keep ignoring it! Is it just stylistic or does it really mean something?!
This is a patent for a "Monolithic microwave integrated circuit packages in a case".
Example:
La fermeture peut être réalisé par tous moyens classiques **en eux-mêmes.**
Variant:
Le collage est réalisé de manière classique **en elle-même**
I would normally just go for 'in itself'/'in themselves' but this doesn't seem to work here or add anything to the sentence.
Thanks in advance! :)
This is a patent for a "Monolithic microwave integrated circuit packages in a case".
Example:
La fermeture peut être réalisé par tous moyens classiques **en eux-mêmes.**
Variant:
Le collage est réalisé de manière classique **en elle-même**
I would normally just go for 'in itself'/'in themselves' but this doesn't seem to work here or add anything to the sentence.
Thanks in advance! :)
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | on their own |
Daryo
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| 3 | true to form |
Verginia Ophof
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| 3 | essentially by conventional means/ in a conventional manner |
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
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| 2 | per se |
liz askew
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| 2 | self-closing |
Jane F
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Proposed translations
+1
1 hr
Selected
on their own
i.e. without the need for anything else (in this ST)
BTW it sounds like a slightly unusual way of using "en eux-mêmes" / "en elle-même", so the standard/usual/normal translation sounds odd.
BTW it sounds like a slightly unusual way of using "en eux-mêmes" / "en elle-même", so the standard/usual/normal translation sounds odd.
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per se
this is all I can come up with
per se - Reverso Context
context.reverso.net/translation/english-french/per+se
That's economic protectionism, which is per se unconstitutional. C'est du ... Les actes de terrorisme ne sont pas en eux-mêmes un phénomène nouveau.
per se - Reverso Context
context.reverso.net/translation/english-french/per+se
That's economic protectionism, which is per se unconstitutional. C'est du ... Les actes de terrorisme ne sont pas en eux-mêmes un phénomène nouveau.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
writeaway
: the French in this context is also in the singular. rather casual language for a patent, dontchatink?t
3 mins
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6 hrs
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Belize
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Specializes in field
Belize
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53
true to form
suggestion
11 hrs
self-closing
Just an idea!
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Note added at 11 hrs (2015-03-18 06:10:33 GMT)
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05/28/2002, US6396293 Self-closing spring probe.
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Note added at 11 hrs (2015-03-18 06:10:33 GMT)
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05/28/2002, US6396293 Self-closing spring probe.
15 hrs
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
Israel
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Israel
Quality, Reliability, Experience.
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, Romanian
Works in: French to English, Hebrew to English, Romanian to English, and 3 more.
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19
French term (edited):
classiques en eux-mêmes
essentially by conventional means/ in a conventional manner
"de manière classique en elle-même " seems to be "conventionally" translated as "in the standard/conventional manner i.e., not part of the patent
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Discussion
"... réalisé de manière //classique en elle-même"
This seems to work better in the first than in the second instance, but we don't know what follows "en elle-même" and that might not just be a full stop.