Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
attorney and Counselor at Law
Italian translation:
avvocato e consulente legale
Added to glossary by
Rosario Liberto
Nov 11, 2014 00:05
9 yrs ago
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English term
Italy
attorney and Counselor at Law
Non-PRO
English to Italian
Law/Patents
Law (general)
definizione di un termine legale in presenza di due sostantivi
Salve ,
Sto traducendo un certificato di un avvocato e c'è questo termine legale su cui ho dubbi circa la traduzione da me pensata. Metto sia il termine che la sua traduzione italiana tra gli asterischi.
XXXX having taken and subscribed the Constitutional Oath of Office as prescribed by law, was duly licensed and admitted to practice by this Court as an ''Attorney and Counselor at Law'' in all courts of the State of XXXX on the XXX 2014''.
Pensavo semplicemente di tradurlo '' avvocato ''.
Sto traducendo un certificato di un avvocato e c'è questo termine legale su cui ho dubbi circa la traduzione da me pensata. Metto sia il termine che la sua traduzione italiana tra gli asterischi.
XXXX having taken and subscribed the Constitutional Oath of Office as prescribed by law, was duly licensed and admitted to practice by this Court as an ''Attorney and Counselor at Law'' in all courts of the State of XXXX on the XXX 2014''.
Pensavo semplicemente di tradurlo '' avvocato ''.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | avvocato e consulente legale |
Mariana Perussia
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| 5 -1 | [leave the way it is, explain, or use a generic term] |
Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
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References
| attorney |
Maria Grazia Nunziante
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Change log
Nov 11, 2014 01:29: writeaway changed "Language pair" from "English" to "English to Italian"
Proposed translations
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12 hrs
Mariana Perussia
Argentina
Argentina
Works in field
Argentina
Passion for my profession
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: Italian to Spanish, Spanish to Italian, English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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3
Selected
avvocato e consulente legale
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Note from asker:
| Grazie mille. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Grazie a tutti!"
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9 mins
Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
Poland
Poland
Specializes in field
Poland
Premium legal and business translator
Native in: Polish
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English, Latin to Polish, and 5 more.
[leave the way it is, explain, or use a generic term]
It's basically the counterpart of your avvocato, but because it was spelt out with precision and pomp on this particular occasion, you probably want to keep the original title somewhere.
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Note added at 11 mins (2014-11-11 00:17:54 GMT)
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Back in time, attorneys and counsellors were two different professions or at least two different licences. That's no longer the case, but some jurisdictions in the USA retain long and grandiose titles in honour of the past. The meaning of attorney is basically 'plenipotentiary', which is not far from avvocato ('advocate' will actually be used in English in some contexts). Basically a professional lawyer admitted to the bar, only an old-fashioned ceremonial title.
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Note added at 11 mins (2014-11-11 00:17:54 GMT)
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Back in time, attorneys and counsellors were two different professions or at least two different licences. That's no longer the case, but some jurisdictions in the USA retain long and grandiose titles in honour of the past. The meaning of attorney is basically 'plenipotentiary', which is not far from avvocato ('advocate' will actually be used in English in some contexts). Basically a professional lawyer admitted to the bar, only an old-fashioned ceremonial title.
Note from asker:
| Thnaks a lot. |
| Grazie mille. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Fabrizio Zambuto
: this is a kudoz where terms have to be translated when they have a matching term. You can't "leave it the way it is"//we solve problems if we give an answer based on knowledge of the Italian Language. I Believe it's a wrong answer therefore I disagree.
8 hrs
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This is self-help/friendly assistance first of all, where we solve problems, not a dictionary. How about you unwind at a bar or something, instead?
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Reference comments
16 hrs
Maria Grazia Nunziante
Italy
Italy
Native in Italian
Specializes in field
Italy
Master in legal translation En>It
Native in: Italian
Works in: French to Italian, English to Italian
Related KudoZ points
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11
Reference:
attorney
Sul glossario del Kudoz la traduzione di "attorney" è "procuratore"
Note from asker:
| Grazie mille. |
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