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avanguardia storica

English translation: historic avant-garde movements

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Italian term or phrase:avanguardia storica
English translation:historic avant-garde movements
Entered by: Therese Marshall

09:34 Aug 16, 2014
Italian to English translations [PRO]
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Italian term or phrase: avanguardia storica
Nel 1931 fu fondata a Torino la prima orchestra sinfonica dell’ente radiofonico pubblico, a cui si aggiunsero le orchestre di Roma, Milano e Napoli. L’XXXX nacque nel 1994 dalla loro unificazione, divenendo una delle orchestre più prestigiose d’Italia. Dal novembre 2009 XXXX ne è Direttore principale.
Con la presenza nei palinsesti radiofonici e televisivi, ha contribuito alla diffusione del repertorio sinfonico e dell’avanguardia storica e contemporanea, ottenendo importanti riconoscimenti discografici.
L’XXXX affianca alla stagione concertistica torinese cicli speciali, e partecipa ai principali festival internazionali.
Therese Marshall
Italy
Local time: 05:15
historic avant-garde movements
Explanation:
I'd keep it simple. It refers to late nineteenth and early twentieth century avant-garde movements in art, music, etc. As in this art related example:
Avant-garde
https://www.princeton.edu/.../Avant-garde.htmlTraduci questa pagina
Many artists have aligned themselves with the avant-garde movement and still continue to do so, tracing a history from Dada through the Situationists to ...
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Isabelle Johnson
Italy
Local time: 05:15
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4 +4historic avant-garde movements
Isabelle Johnson
4historical avant-garde
Maria Fokin
4historical avant-guard
Inter-Tra
3modern (and contemporary) avant-garde
Michael Korovkin


  

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historical avant-garde


Explanation:
historical and modern avant-garde repertoire.

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ex.

Theatre, Performance, and the Historical Avant-garde (Palgrave Studies in Theatre and Performance History)
Author : Gunter Berghaus
Publisher : Palgrave Macmillan

http://www.palgrave.com/page/detail/theatre-performance-and-...

Maria Fokin
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
historic avant-garde movements


Explanation:
I'd keep it simple. It refers to late nineteenth and early twentieth century avant-garde movements in art, music, etc. As in this art related example:
Avant-garde
https://www.princeton.edu/.../Avant-garde.htmlTraduci questa pagina
Many artists have aligned themselves with the avant-garde movement and still continue to do so, tracing a history from Dada through the Situationists to ...

Isabelle Johnson
Italy
Local time: 05:15
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 49

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agree  writeaway: always handy to know the field/subject of a job one has accepted.
1 hr
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agree  Joel Schaefer: yes, good to include "movements"
5 hrs
  -> Thanks Joel
agree  Milena Moledda
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agree  Elena Zanetti
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  -> thanks Elena
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modern (and contemporary) avant-garde


Explanation:
They say "avanguardia storica e contemporanea". I would render it as modern (for "storica") and contemporary avant-garde.

... the modern music period (and the avant garde ever-present in it) starts more or less from Monteverdi and Palestrina – as modern painting beginning more or less with Ligabue.
The contemporary music starts much later, perhaps as late as Beethoven... as the contemporary art – basically with Cezanne.

In the modern music, Bach (with his syncopated chords, etc.) was definitely avant-garde.... as Paolo Uccello - in modern art.

In modern music Berg, Schoenberg, Webern and others from the third Viennese School were, too, regarded as avant-garde. Now they are classics... :)))

Michael Korovkin
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historical avant-guard


Explanation:
La collega mi ha battuto sul tempo..
You cannot be wrong with this term.

See Wiki link
"The term avant-garde is applied to music when it is considered "ahead of its time" by critics or fans, i.e., it contains unique or original elements, or it explores unusual fusions of different genres. In a historical sense, musicologists use the term "avant-garde music" for the radical compositions that succeeded the death of Anton Webern in 1945.[1] This period is typically thought to begin with Wagner[2] or Josquin des Prez.[3][contradiction]"

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The variant 'avant-guard' is mostly used in the field of music

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Please, Read:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/avant-guard
and http://www.allwords.com/word-avant-guard.html
Noun[edit]
avant-guard (uncountable)
1.(archaic) The vanguard or advanced body of an army.
2.New and (usually) experimental; as, avant-guard music or film.


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Please, if you decide for the more widespread usage 'avant-garde' (modern French) add also this variant, because probably is the first variant and clearly comes from Old French, vanguard; see vanguard.

(American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition)

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/avant-garde
Word Origin and History for a-vant-garde Expand

avant-garde

(also avant garde, avantgarde); Fr., lit. "advance guard" (see avant + guard ). Used in Eng. 15c.-18c. in a literal, military sense; borrowed again 1910 as an artistic term for "pioneers or innovators of a particular period."

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant-garde_music
Inter-Tra
Italy
Local time: 05:15
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Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Joel Schaefer: but watch how you spell it ;)
5 hrs
  -> Ahi,ahiii Check please, first: (first) 'variant'
neutral  Catherine Bolton: Where do you find that the term "avant-guard" is used mostly in the field of music? The link you provided to back up your statement doesn't say that at all! SORRY, but I remain unconvinced. Try googling "avant-guard music" versus "avant-garde music".
21 hrs
  -> Here we go: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/avant-guard
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