in contradditorio per consenso

English translation: by the defendant\'s admission

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Italian term or phrase:in contradditorio per consenso
English translation:by the defendant\'s admission
Entered by: Steve Melling

10:04 Dec 16, 2012
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Italian Constitution
Italian term or phrase: in contradditorio per consenso
I'm lost as to whether this is, in fact, one whole term and, if it is, what it might mean.

From the Italian Consitution:

'La legge regola i casi in cui la formazione della prova non ha luogo **in contraddittorio per consenso** dell’imputato o per accertata impossibilità di natura oggettiva o per effetto di provata condotta illecita”.

Many thanks.
Steve Melling
France
Local time: 00:19
by the defendant's admission
Explanation:
Evidence can be allowed by admission of one or both parties. It's a legal term, at least in the US.

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http://www.forumonlawcultureandsociety.org/blog/2009/04/10/e...

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/html/evid...

The second link also explains the various types of party admissions.
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Sylvia Gilbertson
United States
Local time: 17:19
Grading comment
Many thanks.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1by the defendant's admission
Sylvia Gilbertson
4in oral proceedings with the consent...
Thomas Roberts
4(without) cross-examination waived by the defendant
CristianaC


  

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in oral proceedings with the consent...


Explanation:
... Of the accused

Contraddittorio means a procedure attended by both sides in which they have the right to make representations

Thomas Roberts
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(without) cross-examination waived by the defendant


Explanation:
my take

the constitution states that any charge against a person cannot in principle be one-sided and must be subject to cross-examination
there are however exceptions on certain conditions, and one of this conditions is that the accused waves his/her right to cross-examination


http://www.overlex.com/leggiarticolo.asp?id=1624

..."Tuttavia, sono ammissibili delle precise deroghe al principio del contraddittorio nella formazione della prova. Pertanto, si rimanda alla disciplina del legislatore ordinario la disciplinadei casi in cui una determinata conoscenza, sia pur formata al di fuori del confronto dialettico fra le parti, è suscettibile di diventare prova. L’ammissibilità di questi casie la legittimità costituzionale dei medesimi si calibra sui tre concetti fondamentali del comma 5° dell’articolo 111 della Carta Costituzionale. Alla luce di quest’ultimo principio, si deve affermare che le deroghe sono ammissibili purché siano fondate su uno di questi tre presupposti, elementi:

●l’irripetibilità di natura oggettiva cioè l’impossibilità oggettiva di procurare il contraddittorio sulla fonte di prova;

●il consenso dell’imputato;

●la condotta illecita che impedisca il verificarsi del contraddittorio..."


http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/384/1

...."'(I)f there was here a denial of cross-examination without waiver, it would be constitutional error of the first magnitude and no amount of showing of want of prejudice would cure it.'.."

.."The Sixth Amendment provides that: 'In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right * * * to be confronted with the witnesses against him * * *.' And in Pointer v. State of Texas, 380 U.S. 400, 406, 85 S.Ct. 1065, 1069, 13 L.Ed.2d 923, we held that the confrontation guarantee of the Sixth Amendment including the right of cross-examination 'is 'to be enforced against the States under the Fourteenth Amendment according to the same standards that protect those personal rights against federal encroachment.' Malloy v. Hogan, supra, 378 U.S. 1, at 10, 84 S.Ct. (1489) at 1495 (12 L.Ed.2d 653).' See also Douglas v. State of Alabama, 380 U.S. 415, 85 S.Ct. 1074, 13 L.Ed.2d 934. It follows that unless petitioner did actually waive his right to be confronted with and to cross-examine these witnesses, his federally guaranteed constitutional rights have been denied in two ways..."


CristianaC
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:19
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Thomas Roberts: I think the Italian would also cover the rights of the parties to comment on physical evidence // contradditorio often used simply to refer to the fact that the parties can comment in open court on evidence presented
4 hrs
  -> hi Thomas, are you saying cross-examination is too narrow a concept? I am aware of this -still not found a satisfactory translation for this term yet (e.g. in my example 2 terms used : confrontation and cross-examination) oral proceeding too weak in m.o.
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by the defendant's admission


Explanation:
Evidence can be allowed by admission of one or both parties. It's a legal term, at least in the US.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2012-12-16 20:23:52 GMT)
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http://www.forumonlawcultureandsociety.org/blog/2009/04/10/e...

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/html/evid...

The second link also explains the various types of party admissions.

Sylvia Gilbertson
United States
Local time: 17:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 244
Grading comment
Many thanks.

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