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English translation: immediate household family members

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Spanish term or phrase:familiares que con él convivan
English translation:immediate household family members
Entered by: James A. Walsh

15:10 Aug 28, 2011
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Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Human Resources / Bank Staff Regulations (Spain)
Spanish term or phrase: familiares que con él convivan
This is also from the Spanish Bank Staff Regulations I’m translating into UK English. This Article is talking about staff relocations.

I initially thought it was “immediate family” until I looked up the definition of that; then I thought it was “first-degree family”, but that doesn’t fit either. Does anyone know if there’s a standard way of saying this in English? I’m currently using “family members from the same household”, but that sounds quite wordy to me.

Context:

“Los gastos de traslado del empleado y familiares que con él convivan, así como los de traslado de bienes muebles del trabajador, serán por cuenta de la Empresa.”

Thank you, James.
James A. Walsh
Spain
Local time: 13:16
and relatives living with him
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5 +3and relatives living with him
FVS (X)
4 +2his household family members
Richard Hill
4family members sharing the same residence /
Jenni Lukac (X)
3members of his family living under the same roof
polyglot45
4 -1dependant household members
Noni Gilbert Riley


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and relatives living with him


Explanation:
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FVS (X)
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agree  philgoddard: or her! I don't see why this is provoking so much discussion - it's perfectly straightforward.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Phil. The figurative 'he'. //Nor do I. Not rocket science this one.

agree  Henry Hinds
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Henry.

agree  Yvonne Gallagher: simplest solution AND you were 1st
5 hrs
  -> Thanks Gallagy.
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
family members sharing the same residence /


Explanation:
There are other possibilities, but this is very frequently used. Are you covered by a family member's insurance when driving their car -
wiki.answers.com › ... › Categories › Cars & Vehicles for the term "resident relative" in your policy. That will dictate coverage questions for family members living within (sic) the same residence.; ABC.com - AFV - America's Funniest Home Videos - Official Rules -
abc.go.com/shows/americas-funniest-home-videos/rules"Household members" shall mean people who share the same residence at least ... areas listed below) and their immediate family members residing with them. ... Disney Company, the broadcasters/distributors of "America's Funniest Home ... All videos must conform to Network's Broadcast Standards and Practices policies. ...


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Note added at 21 mins (2011-08-28 15:32:07 GMT)
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Clicks too quickly! The other possibility that came to mind was "family members residing at the same address": Warwick Community Ambulance Association | Membership -
warwickems.org/pages/membership.htmlCovers family head and family members residing at same address ... a patient for an emergency call, an invoice is sent to the patients insurance company. ...

Jenni Lukac (X)
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
members of his family living under the same roof


Explanation:
ie. wife/partner + kids that have not yet left home

polyglot45
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
dependant household members


Explanation:
I was going to say just dependants, but that could include children resident elsewhere, and I wasn't convinced. So some chewing has produced this variation on your original take.

http://www.most.ie/webreports/Fatima reports/An Investment i... See page 411, although the context is different

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Note added at 35 mins (2011-08-28 15:45:55 GMT)
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Think that should probably be "dependEnt" - the noun is with an a, but the adjective should be with an e, despite the fact that my ref doesn't follow this, along with many others on google!

Noni Gilbert Riley
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Local time: 13:16
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disagree  philgoddard: It doesn't say dependent.
1 hr
  -> I suppose I was reading too much into it - falling into the trap of extrapolating.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
his household family members


Explanation:
James' own suggestion is fine (as are the others) and can be made less wordy

Example sentence(s):
  • ...whether Walldow could have reasonably expected the policy to cover him as an "individual," thereby affording coverage to his household family members
  • The Vienna Convention thus provides diplomats and their household family members with "absolute immunity from criminal prosecution

    Reference: http://touchngo.com/sp/html/sp-5363.htm
    Reference: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/38809.pdf
Richard Hill
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Local time: 06:16
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Rich, dunno why I chose the option I did to close this question? (didn't really understand it at the time), I apologise. In the end the word "household" is crucial here, I reckon (for UK English anyway). Cheers.

Asker: Meant to say "household" and "family"


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James Schutz: I like the wording of this one best!
13 hrs
  -> thanks James

agree  eski
2 days 5 hrs
  -> thanks Eski
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