Без спеху свалим.

18:00 Jun 15, 2011 

Neither heymaking nor folksiness of those involved therein have ever been lacking in all anglophone cultures. And English language is by no means poorer than Russian or for that matter any other language. If the translation is of fiction, then the trick is to render it not as close as possible to the precise meaning of each term but so as to make upon an anglophone reader the same emotional impact as the Russian expression makes on a russophone one. Solutions are not too few but too many, I think. And that's the rub.

14:59 Jun 15, 2011 

I'm suggesting that perhaps there is no adequate translation.

14:51 Jun 15, 2011 

the montopoly of understanding, it is not quite clear what you're trying to tell us and, particularly, - what exactly is your suggestion, linguistically.

14:40 Jun 15, 2011 

I have also used a серп, косy and сапy (to qualify for this discussion) :) and carried LOTS of water in a bucket.

And yet, I'm not familiar with the two languages being mixed like this. Is this something that happens when Russian speakers are in Ukrainian language areas and they start mixing languages? Similar to Spanglish (English and Spanish)?

варианты типa "we'll cut it all down without any hurry" звучит скучновато, а?
No translation can capture the richness of Slavic languages and the essence of the experience being described in this story. To understand it, you have to actually зачерпнуть большой кусок сметаны, разломить печеную картофелину, макнуть в соль, и откусить!

12:06 Jun 15, 2011 

aha, maybe this explains your dislike of Шукшин and Co. - too much of a good thing :)
however, i honestly cannot imagine Mr. Sorokin swinging a sickle... I mean, what you expect, some of his texts read like used bog paper!

10:21 Jun 15, 2011 

Ходил в покос с детства и до 22х лет. И наслушался таких “фолкси“ выражений, что пародийнее любой пародии. Никогда, признаться, однако, не слыхал “свалим“ в качестве “скосим“.Естественно, мой личный опыт не только не оракул, но не делает даже самой элементарной статистики. “Но тем не менее...“, - как говорила одна из героинь Антони Бурджеса. Как бы там ни было, варианты типa "we'll cut it all down without any hurry" звучит скучновато, а?

09:53 Jun 15, 2011 

in my humble opinion, the pseudo-folksy language used here is nothing but a labored attempt at parody by a dude who probably never held a scythe in his hands in his life

20:32 Jun 14, 2011 

Yes, in this context I agree. "In time we will get it mowed."

Жаришша, посохнет враз, дюже быстро? Is that a mixture of Ukrainian? What is the significance of mixing languages in this way?

20:18 Jun 14, 2011 

"свалим" в данном контексте относится к "косить", т.е. свалим траву, см.:
[..] Роса нонче дюже быстро сошла... — пробормотал Гриша, вытирая молоко с подбородка. — По сухому-то косить... оно тово...
— Жаришша, а как же... — Хвиля разломил печеную картофелину, макнул в соль, откусил.
— Ничо. Без спеху свалим, — деда Яков быстро хлебал молоко.
— Хоть посохнет враз, — мать зачерпнула большой кусок сметаны и протянула Даше. — На-ка, верха поешь...
[..]