Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
oeuvre d'oeuvre
English translation:
works of art out of works of art
Added to glossary by
emiledgar
Oct 23, 2010 13:46
13 yrs ago
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French term
France
Native in: Romanian 
Works in: English to Romanian, Romanian to English, English to French, and 3 more.
oeuvre d'oeuvre
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Context: "Le sens de ma démarche est de réaliser des œuvres d’œuvres, il est donc important que les objets utilisés puissent être identifiés comme des œuvres."
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | works of art out of works of art |
emiledgar
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| 4 +1 | work of works |
Bourth (X)
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| 3 +2 | pieces from other art works |
David Vaughn
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| 4 -3 | masterpiece/ masterwork |
Constantinos Faridis (X)
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Proposed translations
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works of art out of works of art
If the French source text is straightforward it seems to me that the artist is saying that (s)he wants the material that (s)he is using to be obviously a work of art since "my goal is to make works of art out works of art."
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B D Finch
: Perhaps "from" rather than "out of"?
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Thank you. Yes "from" makes the phrase flow more easily.
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philgoddard
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Thank you.
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Sandra Mouton
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Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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masterpiece/ masterwork
il sàagit dàun hebraisme. En hebreux, làadjectif en superlatif se donne en repetant le meme adjectif en genitif. Par example, Le Cantique des Cantiques, (dit aussi Cantique de Salomon, est un livre de la Bible, situé dans le Premier Testament. Son titre en hébreu est שיר השירים, ...
Peer comment(s):
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David Vaughn
: Doesn't fit in with the second sentence.
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philgoddard
: That's chef d'oeuvre. // I did read your answer, and it's wrong, and the past participle of lire is lu, and the French for answer is réponse.
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tu n'as pas lit ma reponse
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Jim Tucker (X)
: This does not deal with the essential "objets utilisés" that are within these "oeuvres". I understand your logic, but then you should provide a French parallel for this particular usage. Did you find this same expression elsewhere in Fr?
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work of works
See "work of works" here
http://www.ifla.org/files/cataloguing/frbrrg/aggregates-defi...
and in quite a number of references relating to libraries and book classification.
While this applies to books (IFLA is International Federation of Library Associations), I see no reason why it should not extend to other works (of art).
Not at all sure the expression in your document necessarily means a "work of art" must be made of other works of art. If I make a sculpture of a sheep out of woollen clothing, it might qualify as a humorous/thought-provoking "work of art", but I'm not sure the component pullovers and socks would, though they would be oeuvres, i.e. anything manufactured, produced by the intervention of man. Or woman, particularly in the case of knitted garments ;-)
Physically THE WORK appears as a LANDSCAPE OF HIGHLY ORIGINAL KINETIC SCULPTURES that activate a diversity of animation techniques, micro puppetry, music, lights and shadow play. All objects produce art and are also a part in it. The idea of simultaneous perspectives and multiple functions tied to EACH OBJECT creates a WORK OF WORKS. ”..We enter a state of excited surprise that all we wonder about starts to sing instead of giving answers.”
sommer.alog.net/
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-23 15:04:03 GMT)
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I think I should restate that. After all, if I made a nest sculpture - or even better, a house - out of birds' nests, I think the individual nests would still be deemed to be oeuvres even though not made by man.
Examples of oeuvre d'oeuvres works that spring to mind are the sculptures outside Gare St Lazare, one a tower of clocks, the other a tower of suitcases. Come to think of it though, I'm not sure the cases are real cases, the clocks real clocks: they might be individual sculptures, or sculpted parts of the entire sculpture, so they might deserve a different name.
What about those sculptures you see of people fashioned from nuts and bolts and other bits of hardware,
Here in the village we have a sculpture made with mechanical parts forged in the local foundry (crane hooks, con rods, etc.). It was originally a centrepiece the forge owners presented on their stands at trade fairs, but since they've gone out of business it has become the property of the Municipality.
http://www.ifla.org/files/cataloguing/frbrrg/aggregates-defi...
and in quite a number of references relating to libraries and book classification.
While this applies to books (IFLA is International Federation of Library Associations), I see no reason why it should not extend to other works (of art).
Not at all sure the expression in your document necessarily means a "work of art" must be made of other works of art. If I make a sculpture of a sheep out of woollen clothing, it might qualify as a humorous/thought-provoking "work of art", but I'm not sure the component pullovers and socks would, though they would be oeuvres, i.e. anything manufactured, produced by the intervention of man. Or woman, particularly in the case of knitted garments ;-)
Physically THE WORK appears as a LANDSCAPE OF HIGHLY ORIGINAL KINETIC SCULPTURES that activate a diversity of animation techniques, micro puppetry, music, lights and shadow play. All objects produce art and are also a part in it. The idea of simultaneous perspectives and multiple functions tied to EACH OBJECT creates a WORK OF WORKS. ”..We enter a state of excited surprise that all we wonder about starts to sing instead of giving answers.”
sommer.alog.net/
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-23 15:04:03 GMT)
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I think I should restate that. After all, if I made a nest sculpture - or even better, a house - out of birds' nests, I think the individual nests would still be deemed to be oeuvres even though not made by man.
Examples of oeuvre d'oeuvres works that spring to mind are the sculptures outside Gare St Lazare, one a tower of clocks, the other a tower of suitcases. Come to think of it though, I'm not sure the cases are real cases, the clocks real clocks: they might be individual sculptures, or sculpted parts of the entire sculpture, so they might deserve a different name.
What about those sculptures you see of people fashioned from nuts and bolts and other bits of hardware,
Here in the village we have a sculpture made with mechanical parts forged in the local foundry (crane hooks, con rods, etc.). It was originally a centrepiece the forge owners presented on their stands at trade fairs, but since they've gone out of business it has become the property of the Municipality.
Peer comment(s):
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SMcG (X)
: yeah, I think you are on the right track, without further context this is the most logical. I would maybe just add model as in work of works model
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1 hr
pieces from other art works
You have to decide if you want to lose the sound of the French original, "oeuvre d'oeuvre" is peculiar in French, especially with the repetition and the vowels. But this seems to be the meaning.
Peer comment(s):
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Helen Shiner
: and in the second use of oeuvre, he means he wants his works to be seen as being part of oeuvres, i.e. bodies of work/series.
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Alison Sabedoria (X)
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Discussion
- R.Mutt
"Recycled art" if I had to commit now.