Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Etat des lieux des acteurs du secteur de la securité
English translation:
Overview of key players in the security sector
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French term
Etat des lieux des acteurs du secteur de la securité
French to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
c'est le titre d'une section dans un document sur la reforme sécuritaire. Je n'arrive pas à trouver la formulation en anglais.
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Overview of key players in the security sector
I often translate "état des lieux" as "summary" or "overview" and prefer "players" for "acteurs".
Note from asker:
| thanks Emma. unlike Juliebarba, I really think it's "overview" because the paragraph is a presentation of the sector and as it is before the reform. |
Peer comment(s):
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Chris Hall
: Perfect Emma - you are spot on here.
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Thank you, Chris.
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William A McNab
: I like "overview". Nice and tidy.
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"Concise" is my middle name :-)
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Clive Phillips
: You beat me to it, Emma. Nicely phrased with help from Chris.
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Thanks Clive. I didn't acknowledge Chris' mention of "key players" as I usually use that for "acteurs" anyway.
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Clair Pickworth
: perfect!
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Thanks, Clair.
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Julie Barber
: Hi Emma, as the context is reform I would think that it means assessing / reviewing the situation rather than providing an overview. I suppose that it could be either, we'd need the para that follows the title
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Hi Julie. Maybe - in which case, Eutychus' "review" would be better.
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Colin Morley (X)
: Good translation
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Thank you, Colin.
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Review of safety and security stakeholders
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Peer comment(s):
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Chris Hall
: "Safety" not necessary here; "stakeholders" - don't know where this comes from; "security sector" should be mentioned.
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Evaluating the actors in the security sector
"Evaluating" could be subsitituted by many words (appraisal of/ review of/ assessing/ assessment of etc).
I think you may want to keep the rest of the phrase intact and close to the original.
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Note added at 31 mins (2009-10-15 12:05:55 GMT)
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Description of the problematic of civil-military relations in the country. Which are the main actors in the security sector, and what is their role and mutual relationship?
# http://www.gcsp.ch/e/meetings/Issues_Institutions/Mid-East_M...
I think you may want to keep the rest of the phrase intact and close to the original.
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Note added at 31 mins (2009-10-15 12:05:55 GMT)
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Description of the problematic of civil-military relations in the country. Which are the main actors in the security sector, and what is their role and mutual relationship?
# http://www.gcsp.ch/e/meetings/Issues_Institutions/Mid-East_M...
Peer comment(s):
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Chris Hall
: "actors" is not right here. "protagonists" or "key players" would be much better. /// Following your reference which I have just seen, I will amend my comment to neutral. /// Well, I personally don't like actors here; I much prefer key players.
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"actors in the security sector" receives 306,000 G-hits. Moreover, the articles all look to be relevant to the subject field (which is all the info we have for now). "protagonists" gets no hits and "key players" receives seven
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Survey of stakeholders in the security industry
Another flavor
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Inventory of key players in the security sector
D'accord avec la proposition d'Emma -sauf pour le mot "overview", qui signifie davantage "survol" (bilan superficiel) que "état des lieux" (examen exhaustif et approfondi).
Une alternative: "schedule of condition", tiré du vocabulaire juridique de l'immobilier (acte par lequel deux parties, propriétaire et locataire, reconnaissent dans le détail, la nature et la qualité des locaux loués ainsi que le nombre et l'état des objets constituants).
Une alternative: "schedule of condition", tiré du vocabulaire juridique de l'immobilier (acte par lequel deux parties, propriétaire et locataire, reconnaissent dans le détail, la nature et la qualité des locaux loués ainsi que le nombre et l'état des objets constituants).
Discussion
The local mafia may be key players in the security sector as they have targeted and bribed officials, but does this make them actors in it? I believe not.
Now, perhaps we need more context from Mimi, but my understanding is that here we are referring to groups having an explicit role in the sector (the role or performance of these groups will be reviewed in the "reforme securitaire").
In this case I envisage the actors to be: local and national police forces, the military, private security workers etc (ie, more than just key players)
...does anybody else feel there is a distinction to be made here?