Pia Kurro Jul 9, 2009:

Understanding of source Dear Gayle, in my hymble opinion you cannot start suggesting English equivalents BEFORE you have really understood what was meant in the source text. This is what I think you haven't. It has nothing to do with the English language or even with linguistic capabilities at all but rather with one's analytical capabilities.
I am only being so intensive about this small issue here because I see it all too often on the Kudoz board - native-speaker translators taking strong positions based on (basically) guessing. They are close, but not precise, and in some texts this is a crucial difference, plus simply disrespectful towards the client/author of the text, and your own language that surely must offer more options. Kind of professionally lax.

Thomas Johansson Jul 9, 2009:

Hur hänger meningen samman? Jag är lite osäker på vad "genomströmningsmöjligheter" är komplement till i meningen. Är det komplement till:<br>(1) "Hänsyn ska tas till"; eller<br>(2) "dess [Kungsträdgårdens]"?

Om (1), så tolkar jag "genomströmningsmöjligheter" som något som organisatörer ska skapa eller säkerställa finns vid evenemang.
Om (2), så tolkar jag "genomströmningsmöjligheter" som något som redan finns vid (i, på?) Kungsträdgården oberoende av eventuella organiserade evenemang.

Gayle Rolando (X) Jul 8, 2009:

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on how the word flow can be used in English. :)

Pia Kurro Jul 8, 2009:

I did not say it meant "turnover" in the text, but "turnover" itself means "passing through", which most likely was meant. Goods pass through the inventory, students pass through the university, and visitors pass through Kungsträdgarden. Without any numbers, although if you count them then of course you get numbers, too. The only things flowing in Kungsträdgarden are the traffic on one side and the river on the other. ;)

Gayle Rolando (X) Jul 8, 2009:

Turnover Turnover would refer more to the number of people who have passed through, as you say like staff turnover - I have not interpreted the sentence as meaning turnover, but see it along the same lines as Thomas did - Annabel would be in a better position to know whether it meant flow or turnover in this context as she has the rest of the text.
How one translates it after one has undersood its meaning - I suppose that will always differ to some extent.

Pia Kurro Jul 7, 2009:

Turnover Got it. What bothered me was that "strömning" here seemed to be something else than "flow". And indeed - in English it would be "turnover", instead, used alot in HR context (employee turnover= genomströmning av personal). And turnover is the act of "passing through". Entering AND exiting. "Flow" is much less definite.

Your line of thought in your explanation is correct, but when you need to bare it down to a short expression, the one Thomas Johansson gave I think still comes closest.

Gayle Rolando (X) Jul 7, 2009:

Flow I think I see what it is that is bothering you, but I still think in English you can use the term flow. You are simply orchestrating the flow in this context, or managing it, as I see it.

Pia Kurro Jul 7, 2009:

Flow "Flow" is something that the visitors do, while "genomströmning" is something one does to the visitors. Don't know but it bothers me if that gets confused.