Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
статс-секретарь
English translation:
state secretary
Added to glossary by
erika rubinstein
Apr 3, 2009 05:53
15 yrs ago
Russian term
статс-секретарь
Russian to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
К развязыванию войны с Японией Николая II активно побуждали его приближенные, например статс-секретарь А.М. Безобразов, великий князь Александр Михайлович, министр Плеве
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | state secretary |
erika rubinstein
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| 4 +2 | secretary of state |
Yelena Pestereva
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| 4 | high-ranking court official |
Alexander Ryshow
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References
| "state-secretary" in Seton-Watson |
Jim Tucker (X)
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| original articles from New York Times |
Alex Khanin
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Change log
Apr 3, 2009 05:53: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"
Apr 9, 2009 07:46: erika rubinstein Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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5 mins
erika rubinstein
Native in Russian
Interp, trans, proof, PR, research, writ
Native in: Russian 
, German
Works in: English to Russian, German to Russian, Russian to German, and 13 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
Selected
state secretary
ююю
Peer comment(s):
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Jim Tucker (X)
: with a hyphen: state-secretary; comes from German (as the "s" suggests); the great historian Hugh Seton-Watson uses this of Beobrazov
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GaryG
: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Табель_о_рангах
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Susan Welsh
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thank you
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Oleksandr Yastremskyi
: so it is a government post
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+2
1 min
Yelena Pestereva
Israel
Israel
Native in Russian
Israel
Translator with financial background
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, French to Russian
Related KudoZ points
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4
secretary of state
secretary of state
36 mins
Alexander Ryshow
Belarus
Belarus
Native in Russian
Belarus
Aus Liebe zur Sprache
Native in: Russian , Belarusian
Works in: German to Russian, German to Belarusian, Russian to Belarusian, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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16
high-ranking court official
статс-секретарь - 1) (должность) secretary of state 2) ист. high-ranking court official
Новый большой русско-английский словарь. © «Русский язык-Медиа», 2004, Ермолович Д.И., Красавина Т.М. 110 тыс. слов и словосочетаний.
Новый большой русско-английский словарь. © «Русский язык-Медиа», 2004, Ермолович Д.И., Красавина Т.М. 110 тыс. слов и словосочетаний.
Reference comments
2 hrs
Reference:
"state-secretary" in Seton-Watson
Eminent historian, uses "state-secretary" of Beobraz. (See my comment on Erika's entry)
http://books.google.com/books?id=40KbWNve4XkC&pg=PA588&lpg=P...
http://books.google.com/books?id=40KbWNve4XkC&pg=PA588&lpg=P...
3 hrs
Alex Khanin
Germany
Germany
Native in Russian
Specializes in field
Germany
Pushing the envelope of meaning
Native in: Russian 
Works in: German to Russian, English to Russian, Hebrew to Russian, and 18 more.
Related KudoZ points
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20
Reference:
original articles from New York Times
January 14, 1904, Thursday
Page 1, 178 words
ST. PETERSBURG, Jan. 13. -- The reports to the effect that M. Bezobrazoff (a leader of the war party, whom the Czar recently made a Secretary of State,) has fallen into disfavor appear to be untrue.
January 3, 1904, Sunday
Page 4, 579 words
LONDON, Jan. 2. -- Information has been received in a London diplomatic quarter unfriendly to Russia confirming the report that M. Bezobrazoff, who was recently raised by the Czar to a Secretaryship of State, is the power behind the scenes of the Russo-Japanese negotiations.
Page 1, 178 words
ST. PETERSBURG, Jan. 13. -- The reports to the effect that M. Bezobrazoff (a leader of the war party, whom the Czar recently made a Secretary of State,) has fallen into disfavor appear to be untrue.
January 3, 1904, Sunday
Page 4, 579 words
LONDON, Jan. 2. -- Information has been received in a London diplomatic quarter unfriendly to Russia confirming the report that M. Bezobrazoff, who was recently raised by the Czar to a Secretaryship of State, is the power behind the scenes of the Russo-Japanese negotiations.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Henry Schroeder
: Nice find
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I appreciate.
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Jim Tucker (X)
: The author of the article may have mistakenly thought (or been led to think) that state-secretary was an office, which was not the case. Seton-Watson's small-case version "state-secretary" is less misleading. Probably best to go with the historian.
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makes sense, of course.
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