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Mar 23, 2009 20:34
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English term

timesheets

English to Arabic Marketing Human Resources compensation and benefits
payroll will be processed as per the established cut-off dates. Ay changes/deduction after the cut-off date will be deffered to the following month.Only authenticated and approved timesheets received on or before the cut-off date will be processed .Any delayed timesheets will be deffered to the following month
Proposed translations (Arabic)
4 +6 سجلات الدوام
5 +8 سجلات ساعات العمل
5 +1 جداول الدوام
5 -1 سجلات الحضور والانصراف
4 -1 كروت الدوام

Discussion

atefwasfy (asker) Mar 26, 2009:
thank you Acording to the reference, I think the two answers are acceptable.
Anyway thank you very much.It will never be a quarrel,we all should pursue the fact
atefwasfy (asker) Mar 26, 2009:
reference http://www.websters-dictionary-online.net/definition/timeshe...
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
in the sake of ----typo---- should be "for the sake of". some other typos might be ignored. Thanks!
سجلات ساعات العمل = timesheets
سجلات الدوام = attendance records
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
I came up with all these arguments( discussion, not quarrel), only in the sake of seeking knowledge. Conclusion: the correct answer to the posted question is سجلات ساعات العمل . Thanks!
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
if both records match, there is no discrepancy, then it means "verified and approved", and then the agency will pay the on call workers.
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
before the weekly or monthly cut-off date, he should send his record to the agency, the agency also keeps in contact with the companies the on call works for, they will cross check the records provided by the companies and the record sent in by the worker
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
For example: a job angency calls someone is on call for some jobs, on different days and certain amount of hours, on certain locations. When that on call worker attend the jobs, he needs to record by its own the hours he works, and keep a copy of it.
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
"authenticated and approved"? in other words, to be confirmed if he was there on such days and such hours? No. it is not the case. this process of verification and approval is only needed for those on call workers or the like.
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
"Only authenticated and approved timesheets " ---- please pay attention to this phrase, why those timesheets need to be "authenticated and approved"? should a full-time worker who attends the work on a daily base, should his attendance to work need to be
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
in western countries, if you are a regular worker, you don't need to fill out a "timesheet" to get paid on time. As I said above, it is only used for on-call workers or some contractors whose pay is based on hours worked.
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
this kind of process, do you think it is for an regular worker who works for an oganization/office/school etc. ? have you seen anyone around you doing this if they are working with fixed working hours (الدوام )?
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
for a regular worker, have you seen anyone around you, need to submitts a so-called "timesheet" to get paid on time? The context clearly mentioned the "cut-off dates", and the process of payment (submitting timesheet, and receiving it, and then the pay)
atefwasfy (asker) Mar 26, 2009:
sorry What I send above may support your point of veiw and if the time sheet is used only for those workers who work with irregular working hours or day as you mentioned ,you will be right .But what is your reference for this exclusive using ?The text not specified the class of workers ,but it talks about the
the employement and the procedures in general thank you
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
سجلات الدوام you found on google, it means “attendance record” which is used for organizations, offices, schools etc where there is a fix working time.
الدوام --- it refers to the fixed working hours.
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
and schools etc. eg, from 9am to 5 pm .
You can find that entry on google, but it does not necessarily mean that term matches the meaning of “ timesheet” which it has its specific meaning in the western countries.
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
as far as I know, timesheet is not that popularly used in Arab countries.
سجلات الدوام you can find on google, they refer to the record of the fixed working hours, as I pointed out previously, as like the fixed working hours in organizations, offices,
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
for example, they are contractors, on call workers (they are on call, when the joy agencies have jobs for them, the agency will call them for work, the time is not fixed, they use time sheet to record the amount of time they work.)
lhcm Mar 26, 2009:
سجلات الدوام ----هذه العبارة مستخدمة عند العرب..و لكن معناها لا تعنى سجلات ساعات العمل
time sheet, it is a form of record used widely in western countries to record the amount of working time, for hour base workers, for example,
atefwasfy (asker) Mar 26, 2009:
search google Only type سجلات الدوام and search google
http://www.madinahx.com/t1385.html
thanks
lhcm Mar 25, 2009:
مثلا: دوم الإدارة / دوام المدرسة إلخ...يطلق على الساعات المعينة...العمال /الموظفون الذين يشتغلون في الإدارة أو المأسية و غيرها خلال ساعات العمل المعينة أي الدوام...لا يملأ
timesheet
lhcm Mar 25, 2009:
time sheet is used only for those workers/employees/contractors who work with irregular working hours or days. And "دوام" refers to the set regular working hours/ time , eg. 9am- 5pm /daily.

Proposed translations

+6
3 mins
Selected

سجلات الدوام

سجلات الدوام
Peer comment(s):
agree Mohamed Kamel : Yes, http://www.websters-dictionary-online.net/translation/Arabic...
2 mins
Thank you!
agree Dr. Mohamed Elkhateeb
49 mins
Thank you!
agree Taleb Ebrahim - Arabic - English - Turkish Professional Conference Interpreter-Translator
1 hr
Thank you!
agree abdurrahman
3 hrs
Thank you
agree Saleh Dardeer
7 hrs
Thank you Saleh!
agree asd_trans
8 hrs
Thank you!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thak you all"
+1
26 mins

جداول الدوام

جداول الدوام
Peer comment(s):
agree Atallah Adra
20 hrs
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-1
35 mins

سجلات الحضور والانصراف

سجلات الحضور والانصراف
Peer comment(s):
disagree Fathy Shehatto : الأخ عوض أو عواد، أود التنويه عن اختلاف سجلات الحضور والانصراف التي توقع يومياً، عن سجلات ساعات العمل التي توقع من قبل الموظف مرة واحدة شهرياً وبصفة دورية قبل استلام الراتب
27 mins
thanks for your comments
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+8
3 mins

سجلات ساعات العمل

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-23 21:45:29 GMT)
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تتناسب هذه السجلات بشكل عملي مع فئة أخرى من الموظفين التي تتطلب طبيعة عملهم التنقل من موقع لآخر داخل المؤسسة الواحدة كالسائقين وعمال النقليات مثلا.

والفقرة أدناه مقتبسة من موقع وزارة النقل السعودية

استخدام سجل لتدوين ساعات العمل ومكان الانطلاق والوصول وفترات الراحة وما يطرأ أثناء الرحلة من أحداث وأي معلومات أخرى ترى الوزارة تدوينها

http://www.mot.gov.sa/RULES3.asp
Note from asker:
It is also .Thank you
Peer comment(s):
agree Abdelaziz El Sassy : أو جداول
32 mins
Thank you Mr. Abdelaziz
agree Dr. Mohamed Elkhateeb
49 mins
Thank you Mohamed
agree Taleb Ebrahim - Arabic - English - Turkish Professional Conference Interpreter-Translator
1 hr
Thank you Taleb
agree abdurrahman
3 hrs
Thank you Abdurrahman
agree Saleh Dardeer
7 hrs
Thank you Saleh
agree Abdelmonem Samir
8 hrs
Thank you Abdelmonem
agree lhcm : الدوام يطلق على الموظفين أو العمال الذي يشتغلون لأوقات معينة...فأوافقك على جوابك "ساعات العمل"
17 hrs
Thank you Hc_Ha
agree Rasha El-Gabry : agree سجل ساعات العمل
4 days
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-1
20 hrs

كروت الدوام

.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Atallah Adra : this is dailly ysed while the question indicates to monthly ,sorry
1 hr
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