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Comandante in 2a

English translation: chief officer/chief mate

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Italian term or phrase:Comandante in 2a
English translation:chief officer/chief mate
Entered by: moranna (X)

15:34 Jun 26, 2008
Italian to English translations [PRO]
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Italian term or phrase: Comandante in 2a
What rank onboard ship does "Comandante in 2a" correspond to in English?

"3) Sono state definite, con decorrenza 1° giugno 2005, le indennità di navigazione dei Comandanti, Direttori di macchina, Comandanti in 2a e Direttori di macchina in 2a, imbarcati su navi da crociera."
Grace Anderson
Italy
Local time: 16:27
chief officer/chief mate
Explanation:
Chief Officer/Chief Mate

For more details on this topic, see Chief Mate.

The Chief Officer (often called the Chief Mate in the United States) is the head of the deck department on a merchant vessel, second-in-command after the ship's Master. The Chief Mate's primary responsibilities are the vessel's cargo operations, its stability, and supervising the deck crew. The mate is responsible for the safety and security of the ship, as well as the welfare of the crew on board. Additional duties include maintenance of the ship's hull, cargo gears, accommodations, the life saving appliances and the firefighting appliances. The Chief Mate also trains the crew and cadets on various aspects like safety, firefighting, search and rescue, and various other contingencies.

On most vessels, the Chief Officer and First Officer (or First Mate) are synonymous, but passenger vessels often carry a separate First Officer who is junior to the Chief Officer.

La gerarchia dei componenti dell’ equipaggio marittimo è la seguente:

1) comandante;

2) direttore di macchina, comandante in seconda, capo commissario, e medico di bordo direttore del servizio sanitario;

3) primo ufficiale di coperta, primo ufficiale di macchina, cappellano, primo medico aggiunto, primo commissario;

4) secondo ufficiale di coperta, secondo ufficiale di macchina, secondo medico aggiunto, secondo commissario, primo radiotelegrafista;

5) gli altri ufficiali;

6) nostromo e maestro di macchina;

7) gli altri sottufficiali;

8) i comuni.

Il pilota durante il periodo in cui presta servizio a bordo è equiparato al primo ufficiale.”
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moranna (X)
Italy
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Thanks very much indeed, everyone. They are all valid answers. In the end I went with Chief Mate, because I found a document on Internet by the same trade union as that referred to in my document and it seems they use "Chief Mate".
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3second-in-command
Federica Banzola
4 +1Staff Captain
Hilary Bruce
4 +1chief officer/chief mate
moranna (X)
4 +1executive officer
Gian


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
second-in-command


Explanation:
ho trovato questa definizione proprio nel gergo nautico

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Note added at 5 min (2008-06-26 15:40:47 GMT)
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oppure un sinomino è executive officer

Federica Banzola
Italy
Local time: 16:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ELISA GIUSTI: ok executive officer!
15 hrs
  -> thanks
agree  John Walsh: NB: second-in-command is always an executive officer but an executive officer is not always second-in-command.
17 hrs
  -> thanks
agree  Hilary Bruce: IMO, for a term that can apply to all sectors (considering the note added by Grace), second-in-command is probably best.
18 hrs
  -> thanks
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Staff Captain


Explanation:
A successful cruise ship company uses the term Staff.
Direttore di macchina is Chief Engineer.
Direttore di macchina in 2a is Staff Engineer.

Hilary Bruce
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ivanamdb: yep for cruise ships - http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/kukiside/staffcaptain.cf... otherwise, regarding military rank federica's answer would be correct; but the question is about cruise ships.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks. You're right, context is important here.
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
chief officer/chief mate


Explanation:
Chief Officer/Chief Mate

For more details on this topic, see Chief Mate.

The Chief Officer (often called the Chief Mate in the United States) is the head of the deck department on a merchant vessel, second-in-command after the ship's Master. The Chief Mate's primary responsibilities are the vessel's cargo operations, its stability, and supervising the deck crew. The mate is responsible for the safety and security of the ship, as well as the welfare of the crew on board. Additional duties include maintenance of the ship's hull, cargo gears, accommodations, the life saving appliances and the firefighting appliances. The Chief Mate also trains the crew and cadets on various aspects like safety, firefighting, search and rescue, and various other contingencies.

On most vessels, the Chief Officer and First Officer (or First Mate) are synonymous, but passenger vessels often carry a separate First Officer who is junior to the Chief Officer.

La gerarchia dei componenti dell’ equipaggio marittimo è la seguente:

1) comandante;

2) direttore di macchina, comandante in seconda, capo commissario, e medico di bordo direttore del servizio sanitario;

3) primo ufficiale di coperta, primo ufficiale di macchina, cappellano, primo medico aggiunto, primo commissario;

4) secondo ufficiale di coperta, secondo ufficiale di macchina, secondo medico aggiunto, secondo commissario, primo radiotelegrafista;

5) gli altri ufficiali;

6) nostromo e maestro di macchina;

7) gli altri sottufficiali;

8) i comuni.

Il pilota durante il periodo in cui presta servizio a bordo è equiparato al primo ufficiale.”

moranna (X)
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 38
Grading comment
Thanks very much indeed, everyone. They are all valid answers. In the end I went with Chief Mate, because I found a document on Internet by the same trade union as that referred to in my document and it seems they use "Chief Mate".

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John Walsh
11 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
executive officer


Explanation:
in Marina mi risulta si chiami così

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It:Glossary - Battleground Europe Wiki Commanding Officer, Comandante, ufficiale in comando .... XO, Executive Officer, Ufficiale secondo in comando. YW, You're welcome, benvenuto ...
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Note added at 1 giorno4 ore (2008-06-27 20:06:51 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(nautical)
Subordinates
For more details on this topic, see Seafarer's professions and ranks.
The officer who is ranked immediately below the captain of a ship is designated the chief mate, chief officer, or first officer (also executive officer on naval vessels or staff captain on large passenger vessels). The chief mate is responsible for implementing the orders of the captain as well as conferring with the captain on matters concerning the ship. The "second in command" is typically responsible (along with the senior enlisted petty officer) for maintaining minor discipline on the ship as well as the vessel's cargo, stability and maintenance. The second mate (navigational officer), the third mate (safety officer), and the boatswain (crew foreman) are ranked below the chief mate.


Gian
Italy
Local time: 16:27
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 141

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Olga Buongiorno
10 hrs
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