Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
filiar
English translation:
discern the filiation of/ map the roots of his/their personal belief system
Added to glossary by
Elizabeth Medina
Oct 27, 2007 01:21
16 yrs ago
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Spanish term
filiar
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Philosophy
Es de Ortega y Gasset (La Historia como Sistema): “El diagnóstico de una existencia humana —de un hombre, de un pueblo, de una época— tiene que comenzar _filiando_ el sistema de sus convicciones y para ello, antes que nada, fijando su creencia fundamental, la decisiva, la que porta y vivifica todas las demás” .
Proposed translations
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Change log
Oct 27, 2007 13:00: Elizabeth Medina Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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chart the ancestry / discern the filiation / map the roots
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Note from asker:
| Discern the filiation of/map the roots of his belief system...excelente, se pasó. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Gracias a todos, realmente se pasaron!"
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establishing the connections
my option
Note from asker:
| establishing the connections with his belief system? can you suggest an alternative? thanks! |
| Gracias Marina, me ayuda mucho tu explicación, hasta aquí es la más esclarecedora. |
| The final answer is the combination of yours, Deborah's, M. Martin's and Salloz's but I can only pick one! |
Peer comment(s):
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Bubo Coroman (X)
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Muchas gracias Deborah!
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moken
: De acuerdo con tu explicación y la sugerencia traducida por Deb. :O) :O)
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Muchas gracias Álvaro!
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Marina Lara Petersen
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Muchas gracias Marina!
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gathering/connecting
mi contribución...
Note from asker:
| Gracias de todas maneras! |
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tracing/acknowledging the roots/origin
Another option.
Explanation:
The individual or peoples have to start by identifying their personal belief system or worldview, and putting it within the scope of some kind of established theoretical framework, from which it is derived or with which it complies.This is how I understand it.Suerte.
Explanation:
The individual or peoples have to start by identifying their personal belief system or worldview, and putting it within the scope of some kind of established theoretical framework, from which it is derived or with which it complies.This is how I understand it.Suerte.
Note from asker:
| Very helpful as well, thank you. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Mónica Algazi
: Aunque la explicación de Marina y la propuesta de Deborah también son valiosísimas.
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Muchas gracias, Mónica!
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- must start by mapping out his or its belief system and establishing the connections
I support Marina's answer and have expanded it in a way that I hope makes it clearer.
for "creencia fundamental" (further down) you could put "core belief".
for "creencia fundamental" (further down) you could put "core belief".
Note from asker:
| Excellent contribution Deborah, thank you! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
moken
: Como ya dije arriba (Marina). :O) :O)
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Thank you, happy weekend (that doesn't exclude working!) :-) Deborah
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Kate Major Patience
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thanks Kate, enjoy your weekend! :-) Deborah
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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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taking down the particulars
Oxford
filiar ÞA1 vt to take down the particulars of
taking down the particular of the convictions ...
Mike :)
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Note added at 16 mins (2007-10-27 01:38:14 GMT)
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Certainly, be happy to.
The diagnosis of human existence, - of man, of a people, of a period of time - has to begin - taking down the particulars (getting down to the nitty gritty, going into the details) - from the system of one's convictions for that purpose, primordially, basing your essential belief, the decisive one, which will carry it and revitalize all the others ...
Mike :)
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Note added at 34 mins (2007-10-27 01:56:26 GMT)
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Hopefully this example will be clearer. "To take down the particulars" means to write down all the details. In this case, this is the first step ("tiene que comenzar") in order to be arrive to the corresponding convictions.
Urban Legends Reference Pages: Kelsey Brooke Jones
In other words, if your kid goes missing, the police have to take down the particulars and file a proper report as soon as you go to them. ...
www.snopes.com/inboxer/children/kelsey.htm - Similar pages - Note this
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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-27 01:58:57 GMT)
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Note in the second one that follow that the particulars are taken down in order to make the investigation:
The Goal
I mean, I didn't just call you to talk philosophy." He smiles. ...... a pad of paper to take down the particulars on whatever order is causing us grief. ...
www.scribd.com/doc/203351/The-Goal- - 742k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Mark's Blog : Sony, Rootkits and Digital Rights Management Gone ...
Personally, I like the philosophy of MP3tunes.com including the decent ...... They will take down the particulars and make any investigation required. ...
blogs.technet.com/.../archive/2005/10/31/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights-management-gone-too-far.aspx - 541k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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Note added at 11 hrs (2007-10-27 12:56:48 GMT)
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Good - I glad I was able to clarify it. - MIke :)
filiar ÞA1 vt to take down the particulars of
taking down the particular of the convictions ...
Mike :)
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Note added at 16 mins (2007-10-27 01:38:14 GMT)
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Certainly, be happy to.
The diagnosis of human existence, - of man, of a people, of a period of time - has to begin - taking down the particulars (getting down to the nitty gritty, going into the details) - from the system of one's convictions for that purpose, primordially, basing your essential belief, the decisive one, which will carry it and revitalize all the others ...
Mike :)
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Note added at 34 mins (2007-10-27 01:56:26 GMT)
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Hopefully this example will be clearer. "To take down the particulars" means to write down all the details. In this case, this is the first step ("tiene que comenzar") in order to be arrive to the corresponding convictions.
Urban Legends Reference Pages: Kelsey Brooke Jones
In other words, if your kid goes missing, the police have to take down the particulars and file a proper report as soon as you go to them. ...
www.snopes.com/inboxer/children/kelsey.htm - Similar pages - Note this
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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-27 01:58:57 GMT)
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Note in the second one that follow that the particulars are taken down in order to make the investigation:
The Goal
I mean, I didn't just call you to talk philosophy." He smiles. ...... a pad of paper to take down the particulars on whatever order is causing us grief. ...
www.scribd.com/doc/203351/The-Goal- - 742k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Mark's Blog : Sony, Rootkits and Digital Rights Management Gone ...
Personally, I like the philosophy of MP3tunes.com including the decent ...... They will take down the particulars and make any investigation required. ...
blogs.technet.com/.../archive/2005/10/31/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights-management-gone-too-far.aspx - 541k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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Note added at 11 hrs (2007-10-27 12:56:48 GMT)
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Good - I glad I was able to clarify it. - MIke :)
Note from asker:
| I don't understand, can U explain further? |
| Thanks Mike, this clarified your suggestion. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
MarinaM
: Sorry this time I can`t agree with you. When refering to belief systems, "filiar" is quite different from that definition
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Thank you, Marina - Mike :)
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Discussion
establishing the connections OF his belief systems.
"filiar", in thiscase, means relating his beliefs/ideas to well-known theories, authors, philosophers. Tht is, finding the 'origins' / 'sources/ inspiration of his beliefs