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Comment allez vous faire....

English translation: just how to you expect to...

09:09 Jul 12, 2006
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy / education system
French term or phrase: Comment allez vous faire....
Mais mon petit Samir, faut bosser un peu plus … comment allez vous faire pour vous intégrer si vous n’entrez pas à l’ENA ou à Science-Po ?

This sentence seems simple enough to translate but I have a few questions about it. It's the words that accompany a cartoon in an article about education in France. The form of address "mais mon petit Samir" seems quite affectionate, but I'm not sure why "vous" is used rather than "tu". Is it because "Samir" is a reference to those of North African origin and so "vous" is a collective term? (the content of the article doesn't focus on this). Has anyone any other suggestions? If that is the case, I'm not sure how to translate it so as to convey the full meaning in the English. Thanks for any help.
Amelie-san
English translation:just how to you expect to...
Explanation:
one approach

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Note added at 3 mins (2006-07-12 09:12:40 GMT)
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sorry, should read "just how do you expect to.."

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Note added at 4 mins (2006-07-12 09:13:45 GMT)
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"just how do you all expect to"
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Jonathan MacKerron
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Summary of answers provided
2 +7just how to you expect to...
Jonathan MacKerron
5How can you possibly expect ...
Jean-Claude Gouin
4How do you want to be integrated if you do not... how will you manage integration if..
Drmanu49
4how are you going to succeed if…
nnaemeka Odimegwu
3What hope/chance do you have of...
Sandra Petch


Discussion entries: 5





  

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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +7
just how to you expect to...


Explanation:
one approach

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Note added at 3 mins (2006-07-12 09:12:40 GMT)
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sorry, should read "just how do you expect to.."

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Note added at 4 mins (2006-07-12 09:13:45 GMT)
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"just how do you all expect to"

Jonathan MacKerron
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  BrigitteHilgner: how can you possibly ...
11 mins
agree  Assimina Vavoula
27 mins
agree  moya: agree with Brigitte
31 mins
agree  Y. Peraza: No "all": It's not clear if she means just the boy or a community, and just by using "you" both cases would be covered.
54 mins
agree  David Goward: but not with "all". She's talking to just the boy, IMHO.
1 hr
agree  LBMas: I'd cut "just," because this guy is being condescending without trying to sound like it. And "just" makes it too obvious/stronger. (Like Bridgette's suggestion too.)
5 hrs
agree  sporran: with Brigitte
14 hrs
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
How do you want to be integrated if you do not... how will you manage integration if..


Explanation:
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Drmanu49
France
Local time: 07:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 316
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
How can you possibly expect ...


Explanation:
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Jean-Claude Gouin
Canada
Local time: 01:28
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 28
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
What hope/chance do you have of...


Explanation:
My problem would be how to transate "intégrer"! Is it common now to say 'integrate" in English?
What hope do you have of integrating / What chance do you have...

Sandra Petch
Local time: 07:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 14
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1 day 11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
how are you going to succeed if…


Explanation:
<<faire>> and <<pour vous integrer>> is a tautology.


nnaemeka Odimegwu
Nigeria
Local time: 06:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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