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Sep 14, 2012 15:53
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French term
En creux
French to English
Social Sciences
Mathematics & Statistics
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Hello
Firstly, it is not me but the client who has put brackets around the phrase 'en creux' which already signals an unusual usage
They are talking about statistics and graphs were you have two figures or lines and are able to induce/deduce something else from the difference between the figures or lines.
A simple example would be
95% of people questioned said that the direction signs in a train station are poor
90% of new visitors to the station find their way from platform 1 to platform 6 without getting lost even though it is not an easy change of platform
Therefore, we can induce/deduce that there is another factor at work and we may even tentatively say what it could be.
We are basing our idea partly on the the information 'en creux'
How would you say this in English?
Thanks
Hello
Firstly, it is not me but the client who has put brackets around the phrase 'en creux' which already signals an unusual usage
They are talking about statistics and graphs were you have two figures or lines and are able to induce/deduce something else from the difference between the figures or lines.
A simple example would be
95% of people questioned said that the direction signs in a train station are poor
90% of new visitors to the station find their way from platform 1 to platform 6 without getting lost even though it is not an easy change of platform
Therefore, we can induce/deduce that there is another factor at work and we may even tentatively say what it could be.
We are basing our idea partly on the the information 'en creux'
How would you say this in English?
Thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | implicitly, indirectly |
SJLD
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| 3 | superficial |
Wolf Draeger
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| 2 | incomplete |
chris collister
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Proposed translations
38 mins
superficial
"At first glance" (en creux), one can draw certain tentative conclusions which need more data to be verified. The exisiting information is inconclusive.
Or a synonym such as cursory, perfunctory, sketchy.
CNRTL: [Le creux concerne la forme extérieure d'un obj.]
Or a synonym such as cursory, perfunctory, sketchy.
CNRTL: [Le creux concerne la forme extérieure d'un obj.]
Example sentence:
Our theoretical research rests in part on these superficial results/data.
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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SJLD
: c'est plutôt le contraire - creux = profond / non! tu m'étonnes!
1 hr
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Merci; mais creux peut avoir plusieurs sens (vide, inactive, intérieur, etc).
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16 hrs
chris collister
France
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Native in English
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Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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71
incomplete
There are just so many meanings and nuances to "creux" it's hard to hit on the right one. However, statistics is necessarily "incomplete", and my take on this is that the author admits that his study is not definitive, but here it is anyway....
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27 mins
implicitly, indirectly
http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/en creux
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Note added at 29 mins (2012-09-14 16:22:49 GMT)
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En creux,
de façon sous-jacente, indirecte : Le passé de l'auteur apparaît en creux dans son livre. Une lecture en creux d'un texte.
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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-09-15 08:45:56 GMT)
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Can also mean "reading between the lines" which is a nice metaphor when talking about statistical curves...
In any case, the term is not a statistical one.
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Note added at 29 mins (2012-09-14 16:22:49 GMT)
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En creux,
de façon sous-jacente, indirecte : Le passé de l'auteur apparaît en creux dans son livre. Une lecture en creux d'un texte.
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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-09-15 08:45:56 GMT)
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Can also mean "reading between the lines" which is a nice metaphor when talking about statistical curves...
In any case, the term is not a statistical one.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Yolanda Broad
7 mins
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thanks Yolanda :-)
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| agree |
philgoddard
23 mins
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thanks Phil :-)
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| agree |
Dr Lofthouse
9 hrs
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thanks Juanita :-)
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Discussion
Note added at 16 hrs (2012-09-15 08:45:56 GMT)
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Can also mean "reading between the lines" which is a nice metaphor when talking about statistical curves...
'Reading between the lines' in speech marks as the original. I chose it cos whether it is a graph or a table, there are lines and the information that we want is 'in between'
Hope no one is angry that I didn't chose any of the suggestions
But I am very grateful. Thanks
I know that some people are not entirely happy with the context I have been providing but once again, this result 'en creux' is based on tens of pages of a study.
The result itself are pages long and the evidence for it even longer
The result en creux can not be better understood by looking at the preceding or following sentence.This is why I keep preferring to try to explain the context or to give a simple example
Bye everyone.