Aug 27, 2004 13:55
19 yrs ago
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French term
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à défaut, l'avis du comité consultatif
French to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
I am updating an old translation. I came upon the following French with its English translation:
Afin de lui permettre d?importer le Produit, dans le cas où il ne serait pas fabriqué sur le territoire français, le PROMOTEUR fournira à XYZ une copie de la première page de la lettre d?intention adressée aux autorités de santé, à défaut, l?avis du comité consultatif de protection des personnes dans la recherche biomédicale (CCPPRB) ou, si cet avis n?a pas encore été donné, l?avis de réception par le CCPPRB du projet de recherche biomédicale (Art R.5142-14 du Code de la Santé Publique).
In order to make it possible to import the Product, in the case that it is not manufactured on French territory, the SPONSOR shall provide XYZ with a copy of the first page of the letter of intent addressed to the health authorities, in the absence of the opinion of the Review Board on the Protection of Human Biomedical Research Subjects (CCPPRB) or, if this opinion has not yet been given, the acknowledgment of receipt by the CCPPRB of the biomedical research project (Art R.5142-14 of the Public Health Code).
Am I correct in thinking that this translation is wrong? I think the meaning is that in the absence of a copy of the first page of the letter of intent, the opinion of the Review Board is to be provided. In other words "à défaut" refers to the letter of intent, NOT the opinion. Is this correct?
Afin de lui permettre d?importer le Produit, dans le cas où il ne serait pas fabriqué sur le territoire français, le PROMOTEUR fournira à XYZ une copie de la première page de la lettre d?intention adressée aux autorités de santé, à défaut, l?avis du comité consultatif de protection des personnes dans la recherche biomédicale (CCPPRB) ou, si cet avis n?a pas encore été donné, l?avis de réception par le CCPPRB du projet de recherche biomédicale (Art R.5142-14 du Code de la Santé Publique).
In order to make it possible to import the Product, in the case that it is not manufactured on French territory, the SPONSOR shall provide XYZ with a copy of the first page of the letter of intent addressed to the health authorities, in the absence of the opinion of the Review Board on the Protection of Human Biomedical Research Subjects (CCPPRB) or, if this opinion has not yet been given, the acknowledgment of receipt by the CCPPRB of the biomedical research project (Art R.5142-14 of the Public Health Code).
Am I correct in thinking that this translation is wrong? I think the meaning is that in the absence of a copy of the first page of the letter of intent, the opinion of the Review Board is to be provided. In other words "à défaut" refers to the letter of intent, NOT the opinion. Is this correct?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +5 | correct analysis |
Francis MARC
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| 3 | I read it as you do |
Deborah Workman
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| 1 +1 | what is the purpose? |
Mary Wilburn
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Change log
May 5, 2011 18:41: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Term asked" from "confusing sentence" to "à défaut, l\'avis du comité consultatif "
Proposed translations
+5
7 mins
French term (edited):
confusing sentence
Selected
correct analysis
has to provide "this" or "that" (if the first item is not available)
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks!"
10 mins
Deborah Workman
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
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Telecom/new media tech, law, bus, mktg
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, French to English, and 1 more.
French term (edited):
confusing sentence
I read it as you do
... reading "à défaut" as "or alternatively"
+1
9 hrs
Mary Wilburn
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Dependable-accurate-readable translation
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, Spanish to English, French to English
French term (edited):
confusing sentence
what is the purpose?
I can't argue with your language logic, but if the purpose here is related to public health, it would make more sense to accept a copy of the letter of intent only if the opinion of the Review Board is unavailable. Absent that, the Board's acknowledgement of receipt would likely be preferable to the letter of intent. If you have access to the code reference, that might solve the riddle.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Tony M
: Yes, linguistically I read it exactly as Asker proposes, but like you, I can't help thinking that make the logic reversed; but then, i don't know much about all these various documents...
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