Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
parti identitaire
English translation:
identitarian party
Added to glossary by
Victoria Britten
May 6, 2019 08:07
5 yrs ago
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French term
France
Tracking the right turn of phrase
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, English, French
parti identitaire
French to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
German political party
This is used to describe the German AfD (Alternative für Deutschland) party. Space is limited, and I would if possible like to reflect the fact that the makers of the short clip about one of its activists choose not to use "extrême droite" or "nationaliste".
The sentence (over four lines, a format I have to stick to) is, "Mary s'engage / pour le parti / identitaire / AfD". I don't necessarily have to use exactly the same number of words per line as the original, but probably can't go much beyond 16 on any of them.
I came up with "identity politics party", which I'm not really happy with; I've also played around with "identity-centered/focused/obsessed party", and I guess "identity-focused" is what I'll go with faute de mieux, but to be honest, I also thought it would be worthwhile for the "identitaire" question to have been addressed and to appear in the archives!
The sentence (over four lines, a format I have to stick to) is, "Mary s'engage / pour le parti / identitaire / AfD". I don't necessarily have to use exactly the same number of words per line as the original, but probably can't go much beyond 16 on any of them.
I came up with "identity politics party", which I'm not really happy with; I've also played around with "identity-centered/focused/obsessed party", and I guess "identity-focused" is what I'll go with faute de mieux, but to be honest, I also thought it would be worthwhile for the "identitaire" question to have been addressed and to appear in the archives!
Proposed translations
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| 5 +4 | identitarian party |
James Roden
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| 4 | The (')Identitarian(') Party |
Adrian MM.
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Change log
May 6, 2019 09:01: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "gastroenterology" to "German political party"
Proposed translations
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identitarian party
Identitarian has been adopted sufficiently into English, in my view, to be used here, optionally with quote marks to identify it as something of a neologism and to avoid confusion with one specific movement (the "Identitarian Movement" or "Identitarianism").
In their essence I would say that "identity politics" and "indentitarianism" are almost interchangeable but using "identity politics" is likely to confuse as it seems to be most often applied now to minority or oppressed interests rather than majority identity movements such as that espoused by AfD.
In their essence I would say that "identity politics" and "indentitarianism" are almost interchangeable but using "identity politics" is likely to confuse as it seems to be most often applied now to minority or oppressed interests rather than majority identity movements such as that espoused by AfD.
Example sentence:
Identitarian politics are condemned as, at best, a distraction from the cut and thrust of real politics [...]
An identitarian party has also had some success in Germany [...]
Note from asker:
| So now I'm feeling foolish: my research hadn't led me that way and I've managed not to come across it before. Thanks! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much!"
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Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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The (')Identitarian(') Party
Quaere: prefix with Right-Wing, Populist & Anti-Muslim? Neo-Nazi echoes in Austria & Germany.
Example sentence:
The Identitarian movement. The political party Identity Ireland was founded in 2015.
Reference:
http://eng.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/government-politics/1886948-identitäre-demokratie.html
Note from asker:
| Thank you - I'd managed to miss that... |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
James Roden
: Yes. However I would avoid the capital "I" - the adjective "identitarian", factually describes the AfD whereas the "Identitarian Movement" is a relatively coherent political movement to which AfD does not explicitly belong, although links are suspected.
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| neutral |
Daryo
: why do you need capitals? In this ST it's not about one specific party, it's about a category of political parties.
41 mins
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Reference comments
58 mins
Reference:
from the Wikipedia ref (also in English)
Mouvance identitaire
Le lambda noir et jaune, symbole de la mouvance identitaire.
La mouvance identitaire désigne un mouvement politique social, une école de pensée ou un courant politique de l'extrême droite européenne apparu à la fin du xxe siècle en France et dérivant de la Nouvelle Droite. Elle met l'accent sur la défense des Européens, avec une vision ethnique et culturelle de la politique.
Le fer de lance de cette mouvance est le mouvement Génération identitaire, aile jeunesse des Identitaires, qui ambitionne de répandre ses idées à travers toute l'Europe.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvance_identitaire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement
Le lambda noir et jaune, symbole de la mouvance identitaire.
La mouvance identitaire désigne un mouvement politique social, une école de pensée ou un courant politique de l'extrême droite européenne apparu à la fin du xxe siècle en France et dérivant de la Nouvelle Droite. Elle met l'accent sur la défense des Européens, avec une vision ethnique et culturelle de la politique.
Le fer de lance de cette mouvance est le mouvement Génération identitaire, aile jeunesse des Identitaires, qui ambitionne de répandre ses idées à travers toute l'Europe.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvance_identitaire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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mchd
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| agree |
Tony M
: Thanks, very helpful!
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| neutral |
James Roden
: NB - AfD ne fait pas partie de la Mouvance identitaire elle-même, même si on peut le décrire comme un parti identitaire.
Reply>OP: MI not limited to France / Whether it is or isn't 'pigeonholeable' as 'i' in nature, it isn't considered part of the 'MI'
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AfD is specifically German in any case. /I mean it's hard to pigeonhole it into a specific category
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