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Apr 5, 2013 02:57
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French term
United States
Legal / Contracts / Business / Technical
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: French to English
tutelle a priori
French to English
Other
Government / Politics
This appears to be, if not a widely used term, then at least one that is not unique to my current text. Is there an English equivalent for this? If not, my rendering would probably be "a priori trusteeship" but I am not sure how it fits in the context. This is a report on public service funding in Tunisia. Thank you!
Premiers recommandations
Dans un premier temps et en attendant l’adoption de la nouvelle Constitution :
d’abord, libéraliser les dispositifs :
abandon de la tutelle a priori pour le budget, la planification des investissements, les recrutements, voire les salaires,… et les emprunts (au moins en monnaie locale)
la tutelle aurait un mois pour faire ses observations (qui se compare à 15 jours en France) ;
favoriser le contrôle local par une assemblée de sages, ou de représentants de la société civile ou tout simplement un Conseil local économique et social (CLES) devant lequel le budget et le plan d’investissement seraient présenté pour avis ; ceci assurerait un minimum de transparence ;
Premiers recommandations
Dans un premier temps et en attendant l’adoption de la nouvelle Constitution :
d’abord, libéraliser les dispositifs :
abandon de la tutelle a priori pour le budget, la planification des investissements, les recrutements, voire les salaires,… et les emprunts (au moins en monnaie locale)
la tutelle aurait un mois pour faire ses observations (qui se compare à 15 jours en France) ;
favoriser le contrôle local par une assemblée de sages, ou de représentants de la société civile ou tout simplement un Conseil local économique et social (CLES) devant lequel le budget et le plan d’investissement seraient présenté pour avis ; ceci assurerait un minimum de transparence ;
Proposed translations
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| 4 | preliminary supervision |
FMorizotUK
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| 5 -1 | monitoring (of budget) |
papier
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| 4 | a priori tutelage/supervision |
Yvonne Gallagher
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References
| difference betw tutelle priori / tutelle posteriori |
Jane Proctor (X)
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Proposed translations
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monitoring (of budget)
That is what the IMF does and did in many developping countries: monitoring their fiscal budget under the so-called rescue lending programs.
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Note added at 11 horas (2013-04-05 14:15:02 GMT)
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High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email [email protected] to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/22b4283c-2d95-11e2-9b88-00144feabd...
Greece is only one of the challenges facing the eurozone. Spain and possibly Italy are expected to apply for financial assistance. The size of these countries’ economies will make their programmes harder to draft, monitor and implement. As many eurozone officials have acknowledged, the IMF’s involvement is crucial if these efforts are to succeed. It is essential, therefore, that a collaborative relationship is restored between the two sides. Europe should welcome the fund’s advice, not push back against it.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/22b4283c-2d95-11e2-9b88-00144...
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Note added at 11 horas (2013-04-05 14:15:41 GMT)
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I will give other later tonight.
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Note added at 1 dia42 minutos (2013-04-06 03:39:16 GMT)
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See item 74 for autorités de tutelle:
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2007/cr0798.pdf
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2007/fra/cr0798f.pdf
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Note added at 1 dia59 minutos (2013-04-06 03:56:37 GMT)
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Hope this also may help:
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE to monitoring (the budget) is "guardianship".
So
abandon de la tutelle a priori pour le budget, la planification des investissements, les recrutements, voire les salaires
"eliminate previous guardianship of budget, investments allocation planning..."
Some references:
The I.M.F.’s decision is a further sign that the Italian government has little credibility, Pier Luigi Bersani, leader of the Democratic Party, the largest opposition group, said Friday. “Being under a guardianship takes away our liberty, and a bit of our dignity,” he said in an interview on Italian state television.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/world/europe/italy-agrees-...
the case of the World Bank, developed countries do not need its help since it focuses on the economic development issues. Concerning the IMF, the largest shareholders have rapidly ceased to rely on the IMF to fix their financial and balance-of-payment problems. They have found other ways of financing, for example by constituting their own monetary reserves or by having recourse to private funds. This economic independence of developed countries vis-à-vis the two institutions have allowed them to emancipate from their guardianship.
http://www.sjol.co.uk/issue-3/bretton-woods
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Note added at 11 horas (2013-04-05 14:15:02 GMT)
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Greece is only one of the challenges facing the eurozone. Spain and possibly Italy are expected to apply for financial assistance. The size of these countries’ economies will make their programmes harder to draft, monitor and implement. As many eurozone officials have acknowledged, the IMF’s involvement is crucial if these efforts are to succeed. It is essential, therefore, that a collaborative relationship is restored between the two sides. Europe should welcome the fund’s advice, not push back against it.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/22b4283c-2d95-11e2-9b88-00144...
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Note added at 11 horas (2013-04-05 14:15:41 GMT)
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I will give other later tonight.
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Note added at 1 dia42 minutos (2013-04-06 03:39:16 GMT)
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See item 74 for autorités de tutelle:
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2007/cr0798.pdf
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2007/fra/cr0798f.pdf
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Note added at 1 dia59 minutos (2013-04-06 03:56:37 GMT)
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Hope this also may help:
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE to monitoring (the budget) is "guardianship".
So
abandon de la tutelle a priori pour le budget, la planification des investissements, les recrutements, voire les salaires
"eliminate previous guardianship of budget, investments allocation planning..."
Some references:
The I.M.F.’s decision is a further sign that the Italian government has little credibility, Pier Luigi Bersani, leader of the Democratic Party, the largest opposition group, said Friday. “Being under a guardianship takes away our liberty, and a bit of our dignity,” he said in an interview on Italian state television.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/world/europe/italy-agrees-...
the case of the World Bank, developed countries do not need its help since it focuses on the economic development issues. Concerning the IMF, the largest shareholders have rapidly ceased to rely on the IMF to fix their financial and balance-of-payment problems. They have found other ways of financing, for example by constituting their own monetary reserves or by having recourse to private funds. This economic independence of developed countries vis-à-vis the two institutions have allowed them to emancipate from their guardianship.
http://www.sjol.co.uk/issue-3/bretton-woods
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: can you show any ref(s) at all as to how you arrived at this 100% sure translation?????
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Of course, Writeaway, see above. As I have written a lot about it I am sure of the translation.
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Daryo
: it's more than just "monitoring" and it's done by the State represented by the "autorité de tutelle" who can do much more than "monitor"; the "autorité de tutelle"can wade in and do/undo whatever it deems appropriate.
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That is what the "autorités de tutelle" (OVERSIGHT BODIES) do: http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=11313&Cr=iraq&C... Another link above, Daryo
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Ireland
Native in English
Works in field
Ireland
right word, right place. everytime
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, UK, US, Canadian)
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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a priori tutelage/supervision
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutelle_administrative
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Note added at 7 hrs (2013-04-05 10:34:32 GMT)
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I would keep "a priori" as it means the same in English but you could also use "preconceived" or "set"
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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2013-04-06 13:28:45 GMT)
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http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais?query=under the tutel...
http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/tutelle de...
http://allafrica.com/stories/200605150334.html
www.inbo-news.org/IMG/pdf/chadi_bejjani.pdfFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Administrative Hierarchy. • The CU is under the administration of the. “Water Tutelage Department” which is under the administration of the Directorate General ...
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Note added at 7 hrs (2013-04-05 10:34:32 GMT)
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I would keep "a priori" as it means the same in English but you could also use "preconceived" or "set"
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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2013-04-06 13:28:45 GMT)
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http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais?query=under the tutel...
http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/tutelle de...
http://allafrica.com/stories/200605150334.html
www.inbo-news.org/IMG/pdf/chadi_bejjani.pdfFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Administrative Hierarchy. • The CU is under the administration of the. “Water Tutelage Department” which is under the administration of the Directorate General ...
Reference comments
7 hrs
Reference:
difference betw tutelle priori / tutelle posteriori
This should help
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Note added at 7 hrs (2013-04-05 10:23:59 GMT)
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rather, tutelle à priori / tutelle à posteriori
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Note added at 7 hrs (2013-04-05 10:23:59 GMT)
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rather, tutelle à priori / tutelle à posteriori
Note from asker:
| Thank you, this definition was exactly spot on! |
Discussion
One more link on "autorité de tutelle" (OVERSIGHT BODY) http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/gov_glance-2011-en/10/01/...