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Dual insulation seals
Apr 22, 2015 14:58
9 yrs ago
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English term

pins

English to French Tech/Engineering Furniture / Household Appliances
Voici le contexte:

All our doors offer:
• Individual formed frames with stainless steel thresholds
• Specially formed metal door leaves
• Triple hinges with chrome plated finishing caps
• Four 16mm protective pins for hinges
• Dual insulation seals
• Durable internal and external finish
• Drill-resistant plates to protect the locks

Merci pour votre aide.
Proposed translations (French)
3 +1 axes
4 +1 pênes
3 tiges
4 -1 caches-paumelles
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Non-PRO (1): mchd

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Discussion

Tony M Apr 23, 2015:
@ BDF Great, thanks a lot! Obviously just my ignorance of the specialist jargon; I know in other engineering contexts, I've seen the same notion referred to as 'dowels' (metal pegs that on movement engage into holes to fix 2 parts in relative positions)
B D Finch Apr 23, 2015:
@Tony At work (housing construction/repairs/defects), we generally referred to "hinge bolts", but the specific dowel-like bit was referred to as a "pin".
Tony M Apr 23, 2015:
pins I have to say i'm quite surprised by the use of this EN term for the component BDF has kindly found for us in reference. I would have expected a term more like 'dowel', for example, to more accurately describe the form + function. I'm not sure if 'pin' is a specialist term I am simply not familiar with or (as I suspect) slightly woolly use of language by a marketing copy-writer rather than an engineer.

Proposed translations

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axes

une suggestion...
Peer comment(s):
agree GILLES MEUNIER
3 mins
merci
agree mchd
5 mins
merci
neutral B D Finch : No, I had wrongly thought these were the hinge spindles/pins, so have to withdraw that agree. Sorry. See label No. 4 on the illustration at http://www.shieldsecuritydoors.co.uk/security-doors/skydas-p...
37 mins
no problem... even you are free to disagree...
disagree Tony M : As it happens, not here! On a normal hinge, yes...
16 hrs
neutral FX Fraipont (X) : The "hinge pins" can't be "protective pins for hinges"
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "merci"
6 mins

tiges

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Peer comment(s):
neutral B D Finch : http://www.emile-maurin.fr/charniere-plate-technopolymere-in... No, I had wrongly thought these were the hinge spindles/pins, so have to withdraw that agree. Sorry. See label No. 4 on the illustration at http://www.shieldsecurity
32 mins
Merci
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+1
25 mins

pênes

Both the refs below have useful illustrations

http://www.porte-blindee.fr/serrure_securite.htm
"Le pêne est la pièce métallique qui s’engage dans la gâche et bloque le vantail d’une porte. dans le bati. L’emplacement, le nombre, la forme et les dimensions des pênes des différentes serrures sont étudiés pour apporter une résistance optimale."

http://www.shieldeu.co.uk/technical-features.asp

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Note added at 34 mins (2015-04-22 15:32:57 GMT)
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I've realised that these are probably not the pins used in hinge bolts: "fit and forget steel pins, sometimes called dog bolts that are fitted into the hinge side of a door leaf" http://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/door-locks-hardware-and... but the actual hinge pins: http://www.renovation-headquarters.com/hinges-security.html#...

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Note added at 46 mins (2015-04-22 15:45:46 GMT)
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No! I was right first time, see label No. 4 on the illustration here: http://www.shieldsecuritydoors.co.uk/security-doors/skydas-p...

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Note added at 55 mins (2015-04-22 15:54:20 GMT)
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http://www.vps.fgov.be/house_fr/house-backdoor_fr.html
"En ce qui concerne les portes qui s'ouvrent vers l'extérieur et dotées de charnières visibles, vous pouvez également ajouter des pênes anti-dégondage B au dos de la porte amenée à s'ouvrir. Les pênes entrent alors dans le dormant et il devient très difficile de sortir la porte de ses gonds."

https://ideauxutiles.wordpress.com/instinct-de-survie/protec...
"Installation de pênes de sécurité / renforts de paumelles (ils prennent place sur le vantail et viennent s’insérer dans leurs logements prévus sur le dormant)"

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Note added at 1 hr (2015-04-22 16:29:34 GMT)
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I believe the ST will have a picture of an UK-type inward-opening door, which, as the hinges are inside, not outside, doesn't need to have the hinge-pins protected, so this can only relate to hinge bolt pins.
Peer comment(s):
disagree GILLES MEUNIER : pêne c'est une pièce de serrure, non absolu
1 min
Si, c'est bien une pièce de serrure ! Cf la citation ajoutée ci-dessus.
agree Tony M : Yes, the 'pêne' is the 'bolt', and even though these are static not mobile, I believe this would be the correct term in FR.
16 hrs
Thanks Tony
agree FX Fraipont (X) : yes, there are pins/bolts on the hinge side too. So even when the hinge pin is removed, the door can't be opened. The "hinge pins" can't be "protective pins for hinges"
17 hrs
Thanks FXF. Note that the ST (which I found by Googling) has a picture of an inward-opening front door. Removal of hinge pins would thus only help a burglar trying to get out (not in). Outward-openers need tamper-proof hinge pins: a different issue.
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-1
57 mins

caches-paumelles

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/index/cache paumelle

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Note added at 19 hrs (2015-04-23 09:59:24 GMT)
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https://www.google.fr/search?q=cache paumelle&hl=fr&rlz=1T4T...
Peer comment(s):
disagree Tony M : These are not any form of cover, they are sturdy 'bolts' to prevent breaking in the hinge side of the door.
15 hrs
TKU
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