Sittenpolitik

English translation: the moral precepts of State and Church

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German term or phrase:kirchlich-staatliche Sittenpolitik
English translation:the moral precepts of State and Church
Entered by: Olaf Reibedanz

18:54 Jan 6, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
German term or phrase: Sittenpolitik
Denn für die kirchlich-staatliche **Sittenpolitik** der damaligen Zeit hatte die Sexualität nur das Ziel der Fortpflanzung.
Olav Rixen
Canada
Local time: 22:13
the moral precepts of State and Church
Explanation:
Perhaps?

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the moral precepts of Church and State (this way round it\'s more common)
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Olaf Reibedanz
Colombia
Local time: 00:13
Grading comment
Thanks, Olaf. Precepts sounds good to me, since I was indeed looking for an alternative to policy. Thanks also to everyone who tried.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1moral policy
PascalD
3 +2moral stance
Francis Lee (X)
3 +1the moral precepts of State and Church
Olaf Reibedanz
4morality policy
David Hollywood
3politics of morality
NGK
3received morality
Lancashireman
2for the moralists in church and politics
Jonathan MacKerron


Discussion entries: 1





  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
politics of morality


Explanation:
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NGK
United States
Local time: 00:13
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 48

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nesrin: "Woodrow Wilson and the Politics of Morality", by John Morton Blum, Oscar Handlin (@amazon.com)
2 mins

disagree  Francis Lee (X): politics of morality = die Moral als politisches Thema
1 hr
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the moral precepts of State and Church


Explanation:
Perhaps?

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Note added at 7 mins (2005-01-06 19:02:20 GMT)
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the moral precepts of Church and State (this way round it\'s more common)


Olaf Reibedanz
Colombia
Local time: 00:13
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks, Olaf. Precepts sounds good to me, since I was indeed looking for an alternative to policy. Thanks also to everyone who tried.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Wenjer Leuschel (X): "Moral precepts" is all right, but "State and Church"? Couldn't it be "Church-State" or "Church State"?
3 mins
  -> I don't think so Wenjer - but thanks for the "agree" anyway ;-)

agree  Christine Lam: I would prefer moral perception of State and Church
54 mins

neutral  Francis Lee (X): it's not wrong, but IMHO not what you'd say in this context
1 hr

disagree  PascalD: Finde ich auch sehr schön, aber Sittenpolitik und Sittenlehre, das ist nicht das Gleiche. Naja, ich will nicht päpstlicher als der Papst sein ;-)
13 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
moral policy


Explanation:
Kontext: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, the chief architect of Pope John Paul II's traditionalist moral policy, has long been a bugaboo for liberal Catholics.


    Reference: http://www.catholiccitizens.org/
PascalD
Local time: 07:13

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agree  Joseph Hovan
7 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
morality policy


Explanation:
groups and values influence politicians' decisions regarding morality policy. ... values and groups on morality policy can be negated when the policy is ...


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or maybe: morality code

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if this is a modern account of historical events I think \"policy\" is ok otherwise I would go for \"precepts\" as Olaf suggests

David Hollywood
Local time: 02:13
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 50
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
moral stance


Explanation:
I don't think "Politik" here is "policy", which is something more formal, structured.

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\"individuals who are openly violating the church\'s moral stance on sex outside marriage\"
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/4/232003b.asp

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\"individuals for whom the \"traditional\" moral stance of the Church of condemnation of homosexual behavior as immoral is problematic\"
http://www.cccu.org/news/news_past_detail.asp?newsID=23&pare...

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the prevailing moral stance

or

moral creed

\"Having a standard moral creed, Christian or otherwise that\'s upheld by institutional commitment and not individual rationalization doesn\'t make a better society\"
http://www.lowendmac.com/misc/02/1028.html

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position on moral issues

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moral dogma

(and here\'s a very relevant reference)
\"... who recently attacked the reaffirmation of Catholic moral dogma concerning chastity in the Catholic Catechism\"
http://catholiccitizens.org/press/contentview.asp?c=11274

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(just anything except \"policy\" !!!!)

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prevailing view (the reference to sex makes things clear enough without \"moral\")

moral standpoint

Francis Lee (X)
Local time: 07:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 80

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ian M-H (X): moral stance/position; stance/position on morals/morality
25 mins
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agree  Fantutti (X): with Ian: stance/position on morality
1 hr
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
received morality


Explanation:
Oxford English Dictionary defines 'receive' in this context as 'give credit to/ accept as true'

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Similar phrases: \'received wisdom\' \'an axiom universally received\'

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 159
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
for the moralists in church and politics


Explanation:
another option

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 67
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