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bobine mère

English translation: mother reel

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French term or phrase:bobine mère
English translation:mother reel
Entered by: Bashiqa

09:00 Apr 5, 2023
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Engineering (general) / Packaging machines
French term or phrase: bobine mère
Context:
Contrôler l’ensemble des échantillons qui correspondent à un prélèvement, de chaque bobine mère transmis par le fournisseur.

This has been translated as "master coil", but is it a coil, a roll, a reel, a bobbin

My choice is mother roll but if anybody with inside knowledge of the paper industry is out there, confirmation would be appreciated.
TIA Chris.
Bashiqa
France
Local time: 09:17
mother reel
Explanation:
It looks to me as if pretty much anything goes:

3.49.2
mother roll
mother reel
parent roll
parent reel
large roll of tissue paper (3.58), wound up on the winding station, covering either the full width or part of the width of the tissue machine
Note 1 to entry: When the mother reel/roll covers the full width of the machine it is also called a jumbo reel/roll.
[ISO 12625-1:2019(en) Tissue paper and tissue products — Part 1: Vocabulary]
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:12625:-1:ed-3:v1:en

This ISO standard is for tissue paper, however. Things might be different for packaging paper (presumably you are dealing with paper for making corrugated cardboard, etc.).

"MASTER ROLL
Also called a “Mother Reel” or “Mill Roll”, a master roll designates the larger rolls from which thermal laminate films are manufactured in. Slitting, or converting, is the process of reducing a master roll to usable sizes."
https://nobelusuniversity.com/2017/03/12/a-glossary-of-lamin...
This concerns plastic laminates, not creation of multi-layer paper boards

The next example relates to sampling, so in that respect is in line with your text that refers to prélèvements, and concerns 'paper and board' which sounds like packaging material.

"cross direction sample
CD sample
cut from edge to edge of a mother reel or post winder reel in the cross direction (CD), having a width in the machine direction (MD) appropriate for the tests to be carried out
ISO 18522:2016(en) Paper and board — Automated off-line testing of physical properties for CD (cross direction) profiles"
https://dgn.isolutions.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:std:iso:18522:ed-1...

Again, it's an ISO standard whose terminology can at least by justified, even if it might be at odds with the term as she is spoke on the shop floor.



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Bourth
France
Local time: 09:17
Grading comment
Thank you.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3Parent reel
AKAH OKWEN ARNOLD FLORENT
4 +2mother reel
Bourth
3mother reel
Cristina Serbanescu
1parent spool
Ana Vozone


Discussion entries: 1





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Parent reel


Explanation:
Large roll of tissue paper, wound up on the reel winding station, covering the full width of the tissue paper machine.


    https://www.tissueasy.com/_tissue-parent-reels.php#:~:text=Definition%20of%20tissue%20parent%20reels,of%20the%20tissue%20paper%20machine.
AKAH OKWEN ARNOLD FLORENT
Cameroon
Local time: 08:17
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
5 hrs
agree  Kimberly Wastler: Definitely at the paper plant (what comes off the machine before slitting).. Converters may use "master reel/roll/coil" depending on what they make.
9 hrs
agree  Anastasia Kalantzi
1 day 13 hrs
neutral  Johannes Gleim: I miss references.
3 days 37 mins
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
parent spool


Explanation:
Another suggestion.

https://www.google.com/search?q="parent spool" "packaging"&s...

https://www.google.com/search?q="parent spool" &sxsrf=APwXEd...

Ana Vozone
Local time: 08:17
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Bramhall: That's how I see it too;
24 mins
  -> Thank you, Andrew!
disagree  Johannes Gleim: Sorry, but 'spools' are applicable for wires, but not for paper reels. Unfortunately no relevant reference cited.
2 days 23 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
mother reel


Explanation:
It looks to me as if pretty much anything goes:

3.49.2
mother roll
mother reel
parent roll
parent reel
large roll of tissue paper (3.58), wound up on the winding station, covering either the full width or part of the width of the tissue machine
Note 1 to entry: When the mother reel/roll covers the full width of the machine it is also called a jumbo reel/roll.
[ISO 12625-1:2019(en) Tissue paper and tissue products — Part 1: Vocabulary]
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:12625:-1:ed-3:v1:en

This ISO standard is for tissue paper, however. Things might be different for packaging paper (presumably you are dealing with paper for making corrugated cardboard, etc.).

"MASTER ROLL
Also called a “Mother Reel” or “Mill Roll”, a master roll designates the larger rolls from which thermal laminate films are manufactured in. Slitting, or converting, is the process of reducing a master roll to usable sizes."
https://nobelusuniversity.com/2017/03/12/a-glossary-of-lamin...
This concerns plastic laminates, not creation of multi-layer paper boards

The next example relates to sampling, so in that respect is in line with your text that refers to prélèvements, and concerns 'paper and board' which sounds like packaging material.

"cross direction sample
CD sample
cut from edge to edge of a mother reel or post winder reel in the cross direction (CD), having a width in the machine direction (MD) appropriate for the tests to be carried out
ISO 18522:2016(en) Paper and board — Automated off-line testing of physical properties for CD (cross direction) profiles"
https://dgn.isolutions.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:std:iso:18522:ed-1...

Again, it's an ISO standard whose terminology can at least by justified, even if it might be at odds with the term as she is spoke on the shop floor.





Bourth
France
Local time: 09:17
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
Thank you.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M
45 mins
neutral  philgoddard: If anything goes, and 'parent reel' is one of the options, we had that four hours ago.
1 hr
  -> I'm just the websearcher in this circus, don't expect me to come up with the definitive answer in every case. Apart from that, read to the end.
agree  Johannes Gleim: The only one well supported by references, including the relevant ISO standard with definitions.
2 days 19 hrs
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
mother reel


Explanation:
It depends on the larger context of the text.

I have found that mother reel is something like this :
https://ec.europa.eu/ecat/product/en/927719/tissue-paper-and...

As for master roll, it seems more linked to an use inside a printer :
https://en.exploriso.info/exploriso/printing/the-paper-feed-...

I hope it helps.


Example sentence(s):
  • \'mother reel\' would seem the correct translation in this case

    https://ec.europa.eu/ecat/product/en/927719/tissue-paper-and-tissue-p-mother-reel-mixed-cellulo
    https://en.exploriso.info/exploriso/printing/the-paper-feed-adjustment-wheel/
Cristina Serbanescu
Romania
Local time: 10:17
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johannes Gleim: Also well referenced
2 days 16 hrs
disagree  SafeTex: This answer was posted 3 hours earlier
3 days 21 hrs
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