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Bibliographie raisonnée

English translation: annotated bibliography

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French term or phrase:Bibliographie raisonnée
English translation:annotated bibliography
Entered by: Saleh Dardeer

15:55 Aug 14, 2022
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Archaeology / Architecture
French term or phrase: Bibliographie raisonnée
In a list of references, I came across this part in French.

So & So (2000) Bulla Regia. Bibliographie raisonnée. In so & so (eds) Recherches archéologiques
Saleh Dardeer
annotated bibliography
Explanation:
What Is an Annotated Bibliography?
An annotated bibliography is a list of citations to books, articles, and documents. Each citation is followed by a brief (usually about 150 words) descriptive and evaluative paragraph, the annotation. The purpose of the annotation is to inform the reader of the relevance, accuracy, and quality of the sources cited.
https://guides.library.cornell.edu/annotatedbibliography

5.5 bibliographie raisonnée
Cet article concerne donc les normes pour la bibliographie finale (pour les citations d’ouvrages dans le mémoire, se reporter précisément à l’article). Pour le mémoire le titre complet utilisé est donc »notice bibliographique raisonnée ».
https://methodologie.florence.sarano.fr/bibliographie-raison...

Una bibliografia ragionata è una bibliografia speciale che consiste in una rassegna organizzata ed ordinata dei lavori pubblicati a partire da una certa data in poi su un tema ben individuato e chiaramente circoscritto.
https://rebrun.altervista.org/bibrag.html
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Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
Austria
Local time: 03:14
Grading comment
Many thanks for your help Cristina!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2comprehensive bibliography
philgoddard
3 +2annotated bibliography
Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
3Bibliography raisonne
mrrafe
Summary of reference entries provided
fwiw-hth
writeaway
En soutien à la réponse de Cristina
ph-b (X)

Discussion entries: 5





  

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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
comprehensive bibliography


Explanation:
See writeaway's reference.

I hadn't come across this term, and I havent found a definition, hence the 3. But a "catalogue raisonnée" (the French term is used in English) is an attempt at a comprehensive and definitive catalogue of an artist's work.

A bibliographie raisonnée must therefore be the literary equivalent, a comprehensive list either of all publications on a subject or (as in writeaway's reference) all the books you've consulted in writing your thesis.

The opposite of this is a select biography, in which you list only the important works that you think may be of interest to your readers.

"Reasoned bibliography" also gets hits. Some of these are opinions, as in "this is a well reasoned bibliography", and I don't know what that means. This may be an alternative to "comprehensive".

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 52
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks for your input!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: From what I saw, I think comprehensive is an accurate translation
23 mins
agree  Anastasia Kalantzi: Of course, also: established / literal / circumstantial.http://civilrighttocounsel.org/resources/bibliography/how_th...
38 mins
disagree  ph-b (X): Désolé, mais ce n'est pas l'exhaustivité qui caractérise une bibliographie raisonnée ; c'est son appareil critique.
2 hrs
neutral  Adrian MM.: it may be selectively compendious, rather than comprehensive.
15 hrs
  -> Yes, that's why I said "attempt".
agree  Ella Rich: I think "comprehensive" is the intent. - cf https://www.cgjung.net/oeuvre/bibliographie-raisonnee-des-ec...
6 days
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
annotated bibliography


Explanation:
What Is an Annotated Bibliography?
An annotated bibliography is a list of citations to books, articles, and documents. Each citation is followed by a brief (usually about 150 words) descriptive and evaluative paragraph, the annotation. The purpose of the annotation is to inform the reader of the relevance, accuracy, and quality of the sources cited.
https://guides.library.cornell.edu/annotatedbibliography

5.5 bibliographie raisonnée
Cet article concerne donc les normes pour la bibliographie finale (pour les citations d’ouvrages dans le mémoire, se reporter précisément à l’article). Pour le mémoire le titre complet utilisé est donc »notice bibliographique raisonnée ».
https://methodologie.florence.sarano.fr/bibliographie-raison...

Una bibliografia ragionata è una bibliografia speciale che consiste in una rassegna organizzata ed ordinata dei lavori pubblicati a partire da una certa data in poi su un tema ben individuato e chiaramente circoscritto.
https://rebrun.altervista.org/bibrag.html

Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
Austria
Local time: 03:14
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Many thanks for your help Cristina!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci Beaucoup


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ph-b (X): avec la traduction suggérée et le premier paragraphe de votre explication. Voir discussion et référence.
1 hr
  -> merci
agree  Wolf Draeger: Hard to know exactly what the FR is in the absence of solid refs, but "annotated"certainly makes sense.
6 hrs
  -> thanks
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Bibliography raisonne


Explanation:
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/thomas-bewick-bib...

(With accent on last e.) in other words, I’d leave the second word alone except to change the gender in conformity with the translated first word. As Phil says, raisonne is a term of art in EN

mrrafe
United States
Local time: 21:14
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 48
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks for your input!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: Yes a "catalogue raisonné" is left untranslated in Art. However, translating 1 word and not the other and leaving the French structure looks strange.
21 hrs
  -> No, I got it from the Bewick link cited in my original proposal./ true, but I was only reporting that others have adopted this solution in the absence, I think, of any more faithful translation.
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Reference comments


30 mins
Reference: fwiw-hth

Reference information:
http://methodologie.florence.sarano.fr/bibliographie-raisonn...

writeaway
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Note to reference poster
Asker: Many thanks for your input!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  philgoddard: Yes, "la totalité des" are the operative words.
1 min
disagree  ph-b (X): Votre « référence » traite du format des bibliographies, pas de leurs types. Bien que le terme « raisonné » y figure, on n'en trouve aucune explication./ Le mot à mot, c'est v/théorie de la traduction ? Et on écrit « annoté » en français, pas « annotté ».
3 hrs
  -> Well it certainly can't be annotated unless the French is bibliographie annottée
neutral  Adrian MM.: FWIW-HTH > annottée ?
15 hrs
  -> annottée translates as annotated. Not exactly the term in the question
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3 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: En soutien à la réponse de Cristina

Reference information:
Comparer

"
"Vous devez construire une bibliographie raisonnée....

Les règles de base de la notation bibliographique sont rappelées...

Auxquelles rajouter la rédaction d’une notice sur chaque ouvrage proposé et non se contenter de la quatrième de couverture, et dont il faudra aller chercher les éléments sur internet, ainsi qu’une présentation de l’auteur : ses titres, références et parutions.

Enfin la justification du choix des titres et de leurs places dans la suite constituée.
https://pia.ac-paris.fr/portail/jcms/p1_1553444/sequence-con...

avec

" What is an annotated bibliography?
An annotated bibliography or annotated bib is a bibliography... that includes descriptive and evaluative comments about the sources cited in your paper. These comments are also known as annotations."
https://www.lib.sfu.ca/help/cite-write/citation-style-guides...

Pour info, j'ai participé à la relecture de deux bibliographies de thèses de doctorat d'État (plus de 120 pages au total).

ph-b (X)
France
Native speaker of: French
Note to reference poster
Asker: Many thanks for your input!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
disagree  writeaway: https://roberge.mus.ulaval.ca/gdrm/09-bibli.htm
1 hr
  -> Un disagree ? Votre propre doc dit : liste d'ouvrages dont chacune des entrées est suivie d'un paragraphe descriptif et critique. » C'est exactement ce que dit ma référence ! Où est votre logique ? Ridicule et pitoyable.
agree  Wolf Draeger: See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annotated_bibliography
5 hrs
  -> Aussi, oui, mais j'avoue me méfier un peu de Wikipedia... I look for confirmation from other sources as well.
agree  Adrian MM.: '... backed by authorities' comes to mind.
12 hrs
  -> Definitely - if you charge per word :-)
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