Regência (verbal)

English translation: Verb valency

23:21 Jul 23, 2021
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Linguistics / Gramática
Portuguese term or phrase: Regência (verbal)
Frases de contexto:

"É necessário saber a regência correta dos verbos";
"Este tópico explicará o que é transitividade verbal e regência verbal";
"O verbo 'assistir' rege o objeto por qual preposição?"
Rafael Balekian
Brazil
Local time: 18:18
English translation:Verb valency
Explanation:
"The use of the term valency follows the normal European terminology; the term
is less common in American linguistics, but when it appears it seems to mean about
the same. In any case, it is defined in Chap. 1. The less widespread term diathesis is
equally defined in Chap. 1." https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm:978-3-319-20985-2/...

"My confusion started when I think of the word lay. In though why it have to be "lay to me". Why it cant be "lay me". Whe i have to use the word "to" after the verb and when i dont have to. Like in Spanish the word "lay" = mentir and you can translate "lay to me" like "miénteME" or "miénteme a MI". After a research, I couldn't find the definitively answer about it, but I start understanding it has to do with the "verb valency", like you have to memorize all the verbs and their valency. Am I right about this? or it depends on other things that I don't understand or I am missing?"
https://learnenglish.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/5792/ve...

A regência verbal pode ser um tanto complicada. Impossível saber de cor a regência de todos os verbos, ou seja, por quais preposições são regidos. Quando não sei, recorro a um bom dicionário. Ontem mesmo, revisando um documento em português, fiquei em dúvida quanto à regência do verbo "aderir", que eu imaginava ser a preposição "a" (aderir a alguma coisa). Ocorre que na tradução, o tradutor usou a frase "adesão adequada dos cuidados primários [de saúde]." De fato, o dicionário confirmou que "a" é a preposição correta neste caso. Então não pensei duas vezes em corrigir o texto para "adesão adequada aos cuidados primários." Quem adere, adere a alguma coisa, portanto deve ser "adesão a alguma coisa". Se digo "adesão dos cuidados", não estaria dizendo que os cuidados possuem a adesão? (O que não faria o mínimo sentido.)

Enfim, espero ter ajudado.

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Note: The second quote from the top is not the best, it has some grammatical errors, but I think the guy got his point across.

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There is also a useful explanation about verb valency on this page:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/portuguese-to-english/linguistics...
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Oliver Simões
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4 +2Verb valency
Oliver Simões
5 +1Government
Paul Dixon
4Subject-verb agreement
Mario Freitas
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Verb valency
Muriel Vasconcellos

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Verb valency


Explanation:
"The use of the term valency follows the normal European terminology; the term
is less common in American linguistics, but when it appears it seems to mean about
the same. In any case, it is defined in Chap. 1. The less widespread term diathesis is
equally defined in Chap. 1." https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm:978-3-319-20985-2/...

"My confusion started when I think of the word lay. In though why it have to be "lay to me". Why it cant be "lay me". Whe i have to use the word "to" after the verb and when i dont have to. Like in Spanish the word "lay" = mentir and you can translate "lay to me" like "miénteME" or "miénteme a MI". After a research, I couldn't find the definitively answer about it, but I start understanding it has to do with the "verb valency", like you have to memorize all the verbs and their valency. Am I right about this? or it depends on other things that I don't understand or I am missing?"
https://learnenglish.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/5792/ve...

A regência verbal pode ser um tanto complicada. Impossível saber de cor a regência de todos os verbos, ou seja, por quais preposições são regidos. Quando não sei, recorro a um bom dicionário. Ontem mesmo, revisando um documento em português, fiquei em dúvida quanto à regência do verbo "aderir", que eu imaginava ser a preposição "a" (aderir a alguma coisa). Ocorre que na tradução, o tradutor usou a frase "adesão adequada dos cuidados primários [de saúde]." De fato, o dicionário confirmou que "a" é a preposição correta neste caso. Então não pensei duas vezes em corrigir o texto para "adesão adequada aos cuidados primários." Quem adere, adere a alguma coisa, portanto deve ser "adesão a alguma coisa". Se digo "adesão dos cuidados", não estaria dizendo que os cuidados possuem a adesão? (O que não faria o mínimo sentido.)

Enfim, espero ter ajudado.

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Note added at 58 mins (2021-07-24 00:19:57 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Note: The second quote from the top is not the best, it has some grammatical errors, but I think the guy got his point across.

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Note added at 1 hr (2021-07-24 00:22:54 GMT)
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There is also a useful explanation about verb valency on this page:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/portuguese-to-english/linguistics...

Oliver Simões
United States
Local time: 14:18
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Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos: Yep! I took a 3-credit course on this subject alone, titled 'Case Grammar'.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Muriel. It's good to get your validation as a PhD in Linguistics.

agree  Rodrigo Silva
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Government


Explanation:
Source: Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_(linguistics)

Paul Dixon
Brazil
Local time: 18:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos: OK, but I'm more familiar with the term 'valency'. See my comment at Oliver's answer.
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Subject-verb agreement


Explanation:
Common grammar rules.

Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 18:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 35

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: See Oliver's answer and my comment and references.
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Reference comments


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Reference: Verb valency

Reference information:
Opening paragraph of Wikipedia article on verb valency:
"In linguistics, valency or valence is the number and type of arguments controlled by a predicate, content verbs being typical predicates. Valency is related, though not identical, to subcategorization and transitivity, which count only object arguments – valency counts all arguments, including the subject. The linguistic meaning of valency derives from the definition of valency in chemistry."

Opening paragraph of Wikipedia article on case grammar:
Case grammar is a system of linguistic analysis, focusing on the link between the valence, or number of subjects, objects, etc., of a verb and the grammatical context it requires. The system was created by the American linguist Charles J. Fillmore in the context of Transformational Grammar (1968). This theory analyzes the surface syntactic structure of sentences by studying the combination of deep cases (i.e. semantic roles, such as Agent, Object, Benefactor, Location or Instrument etc.) which are required by a specific verb. For instance, the verb "give" in English requires an Agent (A) and Object (O), and a Beneficiary (B); e.g. "Jones (A) gave money (O) to the school (B).


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valency_(linguistics)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_grammar
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
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PRO pts in category: 2542
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