flying canoe clouds

English translation: fast sailing ships

23:57 Jun 18, 2021
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / A historical detective novel set in New York in 1702
English term or phrase: flying canoe clouds
"When I was eleven years old," Walker began, "a group of Englishmen came to our village, with a guide who spoke our tongue. Rich-looking men, they were. Wearing great cloaks and feathered hats. They brought bags of gifts with them. Bundles of bright cloth, glass bottles, bead necklaces and bracelets, woolen caps and the like. They were certainly rich men, and they wanted us to know it. They brought the chief's daughter a clay doll with blonde hair; I remember that very clearly, because all the children crowded around it wanting to see. And then these men said that they wished something for their gifts, and it would benefit both them and the tribe. They said they wanted three children, to take back with them across the dark divide, to show them what the world called England was like, and the great King's city of London."
"The agreement was made," said Walker, as he watched the fire burn. "To pick three children, and see them off on one of the ***flying canoe clouds*** that rested on the waters of Philadelphia. Nimble Climber was chosen, Pretty Girl Who Sits Alone was another, and I was the third." He glanced at Matthew. "Back then, I was called He Runs Fast Too. My father is He Runs Fast. You met him. He and my younger brothers took your friend out of the well. He doesn't run quite so fast now, but he still gets around."
Alexander Alexandrov
Russian Federation
Local time: 07:37
Selected answer:fast sailing ships
Explanation:
Presumably this is the nearest they can get to 'sailing ships ' in their language - perhaps 'clouds' because of their white sails, or maybe a cloud is a convoy.
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3 +3fast sailing ships
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3 +1a canoe that flies (from Indian legend)
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fast sailing ships


Explanation:
Presumably this is the nearest they can get to 'sailing ships ' in their language - perhaps 'clouds' because of their white sails, or maybe a cloud is a convoy.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 50
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  David Hollywood: very plausible
2 hrs

agree  Charlotte Fleming
7 hrs

neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: so with added context from Althea, they are looking ar ships and clouds are sails
9 hrs
  -> Yes, she's confirmed my answer, so I'm surprised you're still not agreeing with me.

agree  Althea Draper: A few paragraphs further on in the book that this comes from, it says that they are referring to ships.
17 hrs
  -> Thanks for the extra detective work!
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
a canoe that flies (from Indian legend)


Explanation:
Here is the story of making a canoe and getting it to fly.

I believe this is far more plausible. The canoe can fly and is resting on the body of water. I think the clouds are reflected in the water and/or it's saying the canoe can fly among the clouds
https://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/cryer/canoe/canoe.ht...
excerpt:
"The boys carried the precious canoe to some open ground, and there they propped it up with stones to keep it steady. Then very, very carefully, so that it wouldn't tip over, they got in and sat down, Smok-Wah at one end and Khy-Sty at the other, and when they were settled, the man got in and sat in the middle.

"Sit quietly," the man told them, "and listen to me. Don't talk, you must learn to do as I do."

He took a paddle in his hands, and putting it over the side, began to tap–tap–tap. Tap–tap, on the edge of the canoe, and as he tapped, he sang a soft, swinging sort of song.

Softly, softly, he tapped and sang his song to the canoe. Gradually the tapping got quicker and quicker, and the old man's voice grew stronger and stronger, until the music of it filled the woods with sweetness.

Suddenly he stopped.

"It is good," he said. "I cannot teach you any more. Now go, and sing to your canoe as I have taught you!"

He climbed out of the canoe, and taking the poison and the medicines in their bags of skin, he put them in the bottom of the canoe.

"Good-bye, Good-bye!" called Smok-Wah and Khy-Sty, waving their paddles. "Good bye and thank you for all you have taught us and given us. We will come and see you before long!"

"Good-bye! Good-bye!" answered the man and his wife. "Don't forget us, but come soon and help us to make more canoes!"

Now the boys put their paddles over the side of the canoe as they had been taught. Then, so softly it could scarcely be heard, they tap, tap, tapped on their canoe, and softly their voices rose in the swinging song.

Then I wish you could have been there to see what happened next. As the song swelled louder and stronger, so the tapping grew quicker and quicker, and then!–the canoe began to tremble from one end to the other, and slowly, smoothly as a bird flies, IT ROSE FROM THE GROUND!

Up, up, it flew, until looking down, the boys could scarcely see the man and his wife.

Ah! Then they beat hard with their paddles, and their voices rose louder and stronger, as the canoe flew still higher and higher, until it was away above the tree tops, and birds sitting among the branches sang out to them. "Where are you flying, oh boys? What is that queer bird you are flying in?"..."

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 05:37
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daryo: this sounds far more relevant // even if it's not directly applicable to this ST, it helps to understand their viewpoint - it's about their perception of these ships.
4 mins
  -> Thank you!//But it seems with added context they are actually describing the English ships they see in these terms and clouds are sails
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